Banning Pit Bulls poll .... HELLLLLLP

[PatchO'Pits]

http://www.katu.com/news/news_poll_pit_bulls.asp

The pole link doesn't work any more

We were way ahead at the end!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks to all that helped!!!!!!! The debate goes on for those interested :)

[rileystar04]

I voted.

Anyone that presses "yes" is only doing so out of fear. Nothing more, nothing less. They think if pit bulls are out of sight, then dog attacks and fighting will be out of sight and mind too. But dog fighters will just move onto the next breed. So you german shepard lovers out there, watch out because your dog will be next... or any breed that is "big" could be next... A vicious cycle...

[PatchO'Pits]

I voted.

Anyone that presses "yes" is only doing so out of fear. Nothing more, nothing less. They think if pit bulls are out of sight, then dog attacks and fighting will be out of sight and mind too. But dog fighters will just move onto the next breed. So you german shepard lovers out there, watch out because your dog will be next... or any breed that is "big" could be next... A vicious cycle...
You are so right! Thanks for your vote!

[amanda622]

wow 78% said yes !!

i voted no <<<

[Zoebiwan]

I voted no

[kwitty]

I voted NO! I firmly believe people just hear about one case on the news then they automatically believe that all Pit Bulls are bad. Its all about how they are treated. It's that way with all dogs. If a dog is treated in-humanely obviously it will become aggressive. I found a Pit Bull in my yard one time (he had jumped the fence). I never gave it a thought not to go up to him and check his tags. He was a very sweet dog. When my Mom found out, she nearly had a heartattack. It's just all out of fear from hearsay on the news.

[JustJo]

Wow! I voted No of course but I am amazed at the amount of people that voted yes! I'll bet at least 50% of them have never met a pitbull in person - whaddya think?

[John Olexa]

Wow! I voted No of course but I am amazed at the amount of people that voted yes! I'll bet at least 50% of them have never met a pitbull in person - whaddya think?

Jo I agree!!
I don't even have to say how I voted.
77% yes FRICKEN SAD :( :mad:
23% no

[PatchO'Pits]

Thanks for your votes. We are now ahead 51% NO and 49% Yes :)

[Zoebiwan]

Yay! That makes me smile :)

[amstaffchic]

hi guys....Will all these voting polls do anything? i mean seriously ive voted more times than i could count over the last year or so...?
I love the breed as well as my beloved amstaffs however i know over here ( Australia) we need some laws on who is able to own the bully breeds i think...Too many morons own them,know NOTHING about dogs just wanna look "cool" and they give their dogs no training little love NO dog socialisation and like the fact that they act mean...hence adding to their rockhard image....Im so over twatts like that....
Long live the pb.

[PatchO'Pits]

hi guys....Will all these voting polls do anything? i mean seriously ive voted more times than i could count over the last year or so...?
I love the breed as well as my beloved amstaffs however i know over here ( Australia) we need some laws on who is able to own the bully breeds i think...Too many morons own them,know NOTHING about dogs just wanna look "cool" and they give their dogs no training little love NO dog socialisation and like the fact that they act mean...hence adding to their rockhard image....Im so over twatts like that....
Long live the pb.

I know what you mean. It is so frustrating!

My thinking is that every poll though that they run that we lose gives the media more ammo against the breed. So I vote.
I also do as much as I can to educate the public and do public service activities with my dogs to let them see what the breed is really like.

[d_broncochic]

I voted.

Anyone that presses "yes" is only doing so out of fear. Nothing more, nothing less. They think if pit bulls are out of sight, then dog attacks and fighting will be out of sight and mind too. But dog fighters will just move onto the next breed. So you german shepard lovers out there, watch out because your dog will be next... or any breed that is "big" could be next... A vicious cycle...

I agree with you on this. They will turn to the next breed that (in their stupid and ignorant opinions) fills the "punk or gangsta" look.
:mad: (if there was an emoticon that rolls eyes, i would put it here)

[amstaffchic]

WHAT stunning dogs u have!!!!! :cool:
I checked out ur web site....
Didnt say where u were located tho? U in USA? if u are then u get an even bigger high 5 from me....NO EAR CROPPING! how refreshing to see...All you dogs are great looking animals and you should be very proud,you've done a top job! Ill post some pics of my guys soon.

[Mutt Manners]

I voted no.

[Jade]

I tried to vote no, but it wouldn't let me do anything... maybe because i don't live in the US :confused:

[PatchO'Pits]

WHAT stunning dogs u have!!!!! :cool:
I checked out ur web site....
Didnt say where u were located tho? U in USA? if u are then u get an even bigger high 5 from me....NO EAR CROPPING! how refreshing to see...All you dogs are great looking animals and you should be very proud,you've done a top job! Ill post some pics of my guys soon.

Hello, Yes I'm in The USA. Thanks for the compliments on their ears! Most people here do crop and I get a lot of people telling me my dogs would show better if I cropped, but I choose to let them stay the way they were made :) I can't wait to see your babies!!!!!!

[rottluver]

It will not allow me to vote no!wtf?

[Zoebiwan]

I think their server is having an error since I can't even view polls stats.

[BirdLuver288]

neither can i :(

[PatchO'Pits]

I think all the votes over loaded their system :eek:
We were ahead last time I could get on to see it

Thanks to all those wo voted and tried to vote

[lovedoggies]

I agree that pitbulls are nice dogs if brought up right, I have met a few and I like them...but think about it this way... if a chihuahua was mistreated and attacked someone, it probably wouldn't hurt them too bad. However, if it were a pitbull, someone could get badly hurt or even killed. By the way, I didn't vote on the poll, cause I am kinda on both sides, to be honest.

[PatchO'Pits]

I agree that pitbulls are nice dogs if brought up right, I have met a few and I like them...but think about it this way... if a chihuahua was mistreated and attacked someone, it probably wouldn't hurt them too bad. However, if it were a pitbull, someone could get badly hurt or even killed. By the way, I didn't vote on the poll, cause I am kinda on both sides, to be honest.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Just want to give you some food for thought to make a point...

Yes of course a large dog can obviously do more damage, but that means any large dog not just APBTs. Ok then that being said in your view every dog over 40 lbs should be banned because they can all do MAJOR damage if the situation is right.

FYI a little dog can kill a small child just like a big dog and also cause physical and emotional damage to an adult for that matter.

APBTs do not even have the highest bite incidents nor do they have any more propensity to bite as compared to other dogs nor do their jaws lock and they are NOT supposed to be bred for aggression against people .... but I guess it is ok for all those other breeds to bite and may I add more frequently as the media doesn't make such a HUGE issue over it :mad:

Every owner of every breed must be responsible not just ones with large dogs that is just discrimination to both the breed and their owners.

[lovedoggies]

That's true...I don't really know much about pitbulls. All I know is that some dogs are sort of "wired" to be a certain way, like to be a guard dog, or an attack dog. For example, rottweilers. So, I don't know if pitbulls are bred to be this way or not, but some dogs are, and these are the dogs that have the instinct, no matter how they are brought up. For example, no matter how well a cat is brought up, it will always have the instinct to hunt. And often these dogs are very good dogs their whole lives, without any instance of aggression, and then, all of a sudden, one day, SNAP!!

So maybe pitbulls are not like that. Do you know of any good (unbiased) website that can inform me on pitbulls?

[Zoebiwan]

Good pit bulls just don't snap, I've never met one I didn't like or was afraid of. Very little of "attacks" are by pit bulls, many smaller dogs are more prone to biting.

check here for good info: pitbulllovers.com
pitbullpress.com

I think it will be very hard to find an unbiased opinion about these dogs, many are strong advocates for the breed and others find them just awful and others still use them just for profit.

I know PatchO'Pits can give you many more good sites, these are just the two off of the top of my head that I can remember.

[lovedoggies]

What are pitbulls bred for? I mean, are they bred for anything in particular? (Ex:greyhounds are bred for racing, some dogs are bred to be companions,etc.)

[PatchO'Pits]

APBTs were originally bred for fighting just like several other breeds that are popular today.
It is obviously illegal to do that now THANK GOD!!!
Though unfortunately some BYBs still are... Just a side not after that being said... even a fighting dog was by NO means bred or expected to be human aggressive. I'll explain why further if you'd like as I'm fully aware of the breeds past and current and history.

Human aggression is not to be tolerated in this breed by breeders or owners.

Most dogs are not used for what they were originally bred for.

Now they are used mainly as companions but, also work as police dogs, therapy dogs, search and rescue, tracking, they do agility and obedience events, weight pull, herding you name it they can and will do it if trained properly

[lovedoggies]

APBTs were originally bred for fighting just like several other breeds that are popular today.
It is obviously illegal to do that now THANK GOD!!!
Though unfortunately some BYBs still are... Just a side not after that being said... even a fighting dog was by NO means bred or expected to be human aggressive. I'll explain why further if you'd like as I'm fully aware of the breeds past and current and history.

Human aggression is not to be tolerated in this breed by breeders or owners.

Most dogs are not used for what they were originally bred for.

Now they are used mainly as companions but, also work as police dogs, therapy dogs, search and rescue, tracking, they do agility and obedience events, weight pull, herding you name it they can and will do it if trained properly

Thanks for the info. I'd just like you to know that I am by NO MEANS against keeping pitbulls as pets, and I obviously have never had a pitbull, so I only know what I have heard. And, no, I do not believe that it is right to just start euthanizing any dog of this breed, (unless, of course, it did attack someone). But I do believe that some breeds of dogs are more susceptible to being aggressive, if they aren't brought up properly, or if someone is perhaps getting between them and their food, etc. And I suppose the government doesn't really have a way to make sure that all owners will be responsible, and this is why they have proposed to ban the breed. Pitbulls have already been banned in my city (although a couple of my friends still illegally own them). But, just the other day, I met a couple that owned a dog that was 3/4 timberwolf. Why isn't THAT banned?

[PatchO'Pits]

The government surely does have the power to punish irresponsible owners and breeders as well as animal cruelty cases, but for whatever reason they don't or when they do the punishment does not fit the crime at all. If they enforced the all breed laws on the books and punished the guilty there wouldn't be 1/2 as many problems. Instead they chose to look the other way or give a slap on the wrist, small fine or community service. That is the only solution that will work. What garbage is that a fine for fighting dogs to the death or starving them.

Then they have the nerve punish RESPONSIBLE owners by banning and taking loving pets away. It just makes me sick.

It is unconstitutional to tell me or anyone else they can't have a particular breed of dog due to some idiots abusing animals.

FYI some more info: this was taken from the following link
http://www.madison.com/wsj/arch_opinion/index.php?ntid=47989
Moreover, data on pit bull attacks are suspect because definitions of "pit bull" vary. The term "pit bull" properly applies to three breeds: The American pit bull terrier, the American Staffordshire terrier and the Staffordshire bull terrier. But in common usage a variety of stout dogs with strong jaws are referred to as pit bulls. Consequently, attacks by other breeds are often blamed on pit bulls, and authorities have difficulty distinguishing pit bulls from other dogs.

Further weakening the argument for pit bull bans is the fact that fatal attacks by pit bulls or any other breed are rare. The total number of deaths attributed to dog attacks nationwide is usually 15 to 20 per year, reaching 21 in 2004. The number attributed to pit bulls annually is four to five.

Injuries from dog bites are a much larger problem, approaching 1 million per year, with thousands involving serious wounds. The size of the dog bite problem, which cuts across many breeds, puts the pit bull ban campaign in perspective: Banning pit bulls is not only unwarranted, it's also inadequate. Needed is better enforcement of dangerous dog ordinances against all breeds and more education to encourage responsible dog ownership.


Though a wolve is a wild animal and that is a different story. Wolves are not domesticated animals. inorder to own any wild animal I believe a special permit must be obtained from the city and or state the person lives in....