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Jenny
07-17-2003, 12:13 AM
I thought this was interesting...and sad...so I'm going to copy it here. This is what I think of in instances such as the "Pied African Greys", "English budgies", and others. So that I don't get in trouble, it comes from "The Parrot Breeder's Answer Book" by Gayle Soucek and is on pages 6-8.

It's first talking about careful pairing up of birds and breeders who are careless and inbreed and how their flock suffers health-wise, and then comes to the subject of mutations:

"Mutations: These weaknesses appear most often in heavily inbred birds. Mutations are genetic faults that occur randomly in nature. In birds, these faults most commonly show up as changes in feather color due to missing or altered pigmentation. The cockatiel is a perfect example. Normal cockatiels are mostly gray birds and are usually quite hardy. Although color mutations appear occasionally in the wild, these birds do not usually survive since they stand out from their flock and make a perfect target for predators. Even when they do survive, theyr'e unlikely to find a similar mate. Therefore, they tend either to not breed or to breed with a normal-colored mate, thus not perpetuating the mutation.
In captivity, however, that all changed. Over the years, color mutations such as pure white (albino), solid yellow (lutino), and variegated colors (pied) appeared. Since these birds were unusual and often quite pretty, breeders began to inbreed them intentionally to produce established bloodlines that would pass on these genetic traits. At this point, captive-bred cockatiels are available in over a dozen different color mutations, and normal grey cockatiels are slowly beginning to disappear.Unfortuneately, some undesirable traits are also passed along with the color mutations, such as bald spots in feathering, night thrashing (sudden panic attacks after dark), and shortened life spans. New research being done at the University of California in Davis suggests that highly inbred color mutation cockatiels may be suffering from an inherited kidney defect that causes poor kidney function and that will progress to gout and kidney failure when the birds are fed a high-protein diet.
Responsible cockatiel breeders are working hard to eliminate these negative traits. However, careless or inept people are still out there paying little or no attention to strengthening the bloodlines of the birds they keep. In the long run, these people end up hurting themselves economically in addition to the damage they cause to the birds. Genetically weak birds produce less, suffer more illnesses, and might display personality defects that make them undesirable as pets or breeding stock. The worst fear is that careless breeding will eventually introduce a lethal gene, which is a genetic flaw that prevents hatching or kills the bird at an early age. Lethal genes have already shown up in the poultry industry. The reports of kidney disease in cockatiels might very well be the tip of that iceberg."

In my opinion anyone wishing to buy a pet bird should first make sure the breeder is responsible and second they should go for the normal coloration. At my vet clinic I've seen so many non-normal colored rats with huge tumors and ferrets with adrenal gland problems and more, none of which happen in the wild nearly as much. These poor animals suffer because of careless people breeding them, and I hate to think that this is happening to birds. Already budgies' average lifespans are nearly 50% less than they used to be. And about the "feather duster budgies", though it might be "natural" that it was born like that and not a human's fault, the English budgies have still been inbred first to achieve their size and second to get the different colors, thus weakening them and allowing for defects like feathers that constantly grow. Anyway, sorry this was so long!

Mrs.Birdy
07-17-2003, 09:13 AM
Thanks Jenny...that was quite informative. I never realized that the cockatiel mutations were so weak and short lived. My Snickers is a normal grey female cockatiel and IMO the greys are the more beautiful of all the cockatiels, and yes, I have noticed less and less of the normal greys in the pet stores, etc. and many more pearls, pieds, albinos, lutinos, etc.

It is scary to think that this inbreeding of
mutations may very well be the demise of the beautiful normal "healthy"grey cockatiels...:(

crazeemama
07-23-2003, 12:03 AM
very interesting! i have done a little research into cockatiel genetic history, and there were nimerous mentions of certain mutations coming about in the 1950's andbeing further exploited, in breeding, etc. I do not agree with breeding for color selection only. I feel ther has to be some inprovement of the species as a whole.
I am sure Normal greys are considered ' inferior' in some circles but due to some of the inherent problems with mutations i do prefer them.
I know another woman that has birds (her largest is a Sun Conure) but she has multiple budgies and cockatiels and she just puts a nest box in there so she really has no idea who mates with whom. tHERE is also more thyan one generation. SHe was over one day talking about how one clutch of eggs had babies deformed and things. I asked her what she did in that case. She say just ring the necks. I was sick. so cruel
I think one has to remember that Budgies are really considered 'disposable pets'. If you want to surprise your vet,show up with a couple of budgies! Alot of people think that it is cheaper to buy another one than to care for the original one. This fact has got to be remembered with regard to any talk about
longevity in Budgies.
the 'don't worry Sally if Budgie #1 dies we can always get another ------ (fill in the blaank) color Budgie!' defense.
Protein can definitely cause problems in excess. i think it is worth noting that protien,fat, and other requirements are different from species to species. But how many pellet manufacturers make a different formulation of pellets. Not many. They are different only in the size of the pellet.
Parrot/companion bird husbandry skills are definitely required to give them the best life they can have. Use every resource you can get your hands on.

schavon2
07-23-2003, 02:38 PM
in an old issue of BIRD TALK in the ASK THE EXPERTS section, someone asked about color mutations in cockatiels. a long answer followed, ending with

"i hope you are convinced that the color mutation of a cockatiel has no bearing whatsoever on its pet potential, talking ability, longevity or breeding production."

teri
07-23-2003, 03:34 PM
thnx jenny,

i love how you are "just" a teenager and so into educating yourself on birdies, you probably get straight "A".s in school don't you? didn't you say on one of your posts that you want to be a vet? you are going to make a great one, i just wished you lived near me so when my birdie gets sick, or whatever, i could bring them to you (:

Jenny
07-24-2003, 11:18 PM
Crazeemama- that story about the lady you know makes me sick! That's absolutely horrible!!! I've probably said this before but sometimes I wish it were illegal to own birds as pets because of the thousands who have to live such dreadful lives in captivity. Schavon2- I sure hope that that issue of BirdTalk was extremely old and that no one would say that now. I agree that the color mutation probably has little (though maybe some) to do with talking ability and pet potential, but I don't agree about longevity or breeding production. And Teri- Thanks for the compliments! =) Yes, I'm sure I did say in one of my posts that I want to be a vet! So far I'm set on becoming an "avian specialist vet" and I hope I don't change my mind! Today I was at the exotic animal clinic that I volunteer at, and this guy ( who works at the biochem. dep. at the college here!) brought in a white-faced 'tiel that had a big abscess/tumor on it's face. It's feathers didnt' look great, nor did it's beak, and the guy had brought it in a show case with tons of millet and sunflower seeds in the bottom of the cage! It didn't look healthy, and I was upset to hear that it was a breeder! I can't believe anyone would breed a bird who developed tumors like that and second of all was a very mean bird. Not very smart thinking IMHO! I was just thinking, and I don't think I've ever seen any normal grey tiels in the vet clinic except ones there for boarding.

crazeemama
07-24-2003, 11:49 PM
Jenny - i too get sick at some of the things i see regarding birds. And yes i would NEVER have a creature such as the one you desribed in a breeding program. I think it unconnscieentable (SP?) to breed a creature in that shape and pass on what could very well be a genetic defect. It boggles the mind!

BTW Jenny, i agree with the others you seem to be a wonderful young woman with a good head. A peice of advice from a certified has-been or once-was - NEVER GIVE UP ON YOUR DREAM - YOU ARE WORTH IT - JUST DON'T LOOK BACK AND KEEP ONA GOING. YOU'LL GET THERE SOONER THAN YOU THINK!

Jenny
07-25-2003, 12:27 AM
Hey Crazeemama, thanks for your advice. I'll be sure to remember it! ;)