how come the rspca dont shut down the puppy mills ?

[rko2164]

how come they don't shut them down or do they

[Ruehlman]

I don't really know much about the RSPCA but did you know that the USDA is for Puppy Mills, and even supports them!? That's crazy, but my USDA inspector for my monkeys told me how the USDA is for them because they get so much money out of them. It really is kind of sick, poor mommy and daddy dogs, and their puppies. :(

I would love for them to be put to a stop, but it is kind of hard in some states for that to happen. Especially in Ohio, because it is legal here. (I'm not sure of other states laws but it definitely should be outlawed. HOW CRUEL!!!!)

=D

[rko2164]

my friend lives over at the usa told me about them ugh its sick and wrong i think we have them here in australia i hope not ! i live in sydney she lives in missouri

[That_girl]

They have to gather evidence and have a case before they can shut down a mill. It's like anything else, they have to have proof that there is law breaking going on.

Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Ohio have the most puppy mills. We are working on legislation to make it easier to shut them down.

[krazy4birds]

my friend lives over at the usa told me about them ugh its sick and wrong i think we have them here in australia i hope not ! i live in sydney she lives in missouri

Hey there! I agree with you and I know there is legislation going on right now to help the proper authorities do their job and get these guys shut down!!!
Fancy that your friend is from Missouri...I am too!!! Small world after all!:35:
Glad to have you here at Petlovers!

[MandyPug]

Dogs are still considered property. So in order to get proof or save dogs you have to get permission to enter the owners' property. All that is needed for dogs to be kept is food, water, and shelter according to most laws; this is met even in the most primitive ways at puppy mills, it's sickening but the law isn't about to change anytime soon.

All we can do is educate and inform as many people we can about these kinds of places and turn more people on to rescue or reputable breeders. We need to get more people to open their eyes and care; but in the areas that are highly populated by these mills, most of the people think the same way and believe that animals are just possessions and if you own them it's your right to be able to use them to make profit. That's America for you. If it can make you money, exploit the hell out of it and make sure to keep costs low so you can make the most profit.

[Ruehlman]

Well, don't you think that dogs should always be considered property?
Because, if America granted dogs and other animals "rights", then we wouldn't be able to legally "own" them anymore, ya know?

(Although I am totally against puppy mills!)

I mean, I don't consider my dog property...more of a companion...but many animal rights groups such as PETA don't believe that we should own ANY animals as pets.

Thats just what I think though :)

[MandyPug]

Well, don't you think that dogs should always be considered property?
Because, if America granted dogs and other animals "rights", then we wouldn't be able to legally "own" them anymore, ya know?

(Although I am totally against puppy mills!)

I mean, I don't consider my dog property...more of a companion...but many animal rights groups such as PETA don't believe that we should own ANY animals as pets.

Thats just what I think though :)

It's a fine line. My three are family, not property, and they are treated as such. They are living breathing animals, beating hearts and thinking minds. They are not like a couch or a lamp or a computer; they are my family and friends.

It's not necessarily about "rights" as it is about treating them better as living beings rather than property. For a dog to be considered kept at the bottom line of care in my opinion they need:

1. quality food
2. shelter from the elements including being able to get away from heat or cold weather
3. clean water
4. daily human interaction (which is very easy to recognize if you've ever been around a neglected dog)
5. regular veterinary care
6. Clean living space free of urine and feces

If those things cannot be met, then people shouldn't be able to have a dog. That is the BARE MINIMUM of care i wish i could expect people to give. Unfortunately that is not the case with the sick humans of the world.

Oh and no I'm not a PETA freak, i despise them.

[Ruehlman]

I completely agree with you.
My dog is part of the family too, he is actually laying on my lap right now.
He is treated very well, as my monkeys are.
We spend TONS of money and love on them. lol.

Thanks for writing that though.
:)