Devastated70 asks:

[dlaura]

Devastated70 asked the following question about her remaining German Shepherd. His sister just passed away of an unknown heart condition. This was asked in the "Mourning & Remembrance" forum and I am moving the question here so maybe more of you will see it and have some thoughts.



"I did take my boy (Ollie) to the vet the very next morning and had his blood work done. To my knowledge, my vet told me that even IF he does have an enlarged heart too, that there is really nothing that can be done - does anyone know if this is true, or is there stuff that can be done?"

[FredsMom]

I have no idea, but you may want to take the dog into another vet, or at least give another one a call, and get a second opinion.

Although someone on here may be able to give you better advice. Good luck.

[squashynose]

I sucked this off google...

Treatment of Dog Enlarged Heart
There is no cure for this disease. Several heart treatment drugs are used in combination to treat an enlarged heart. Drugs include Digoxin (helps with heart contractions), ACE Inhibitors (reduces blood pressure) and diuretics (removes water, works on kidneys).

Diet for Dog with Enlarged Heart
All dogs with heart issues are put on a low salt diet to reduce liquid retention. Recent studies are showing that if a dog’s diet is low in Taurine, they see future heart problems. Dietary supplements can help such as:

Taurine and Dogs – amino acid produced naturally by dogs. This substance helps to regulate heartbeat, helps calcium absorption during times of reduced oxygen and protects the heart from calcium overload. In order to produce taurine (from vitaimin B-6, dogs also need the substances methionine and cystine. Other good supplements are vitamins C and B-1. Note that Taurine is particularly effective in Cocker Spaniels. Taurine has no known side effects, but safe dosage should be based on the recommendation of a Veterinarian.

Carnitine and coenzyme Q are also often recommened by Veterinarians as they help with dog enlarged heart by bringing fatty acids into muscle cells which is then converted into the needed energy. This substance is considered safe. Try not to use D-carnitine or DL carnitine which causes problems with muscle function and possibly angina.

[devastated70]

Thank you for the information and your time.
do you think a simple xray will be sufficient to tell if my male also has an enlarged heart? my vet was trying to recommend me to a heart specialist and would be a $300.00 visit, eventho we cannot put a price on our "babies" and hate to even bring up the Money situation

[Irish_Lass]

Hiya devastated70. Emily's post has kinda answered what I had looked up for ya. I'd tell ya to PM Tiffers, she's our "go to" lassie on here for most medical queries. :)

[squashynose]

Diagnosis of Dog Enlarged Heart
All of the common methods used to diagnose heart disease are used to diagnose an enlarged heart. Surgery is not needed to diagnose this disease. Methods of dog enlarged heart diagnosis include:

X-Rays – To check for enlargement

Electrocardiography (electrical reading of heart) – Records arrhythmia (pattern of heart beats) and allows the Veterinarian to see the size of the heart chambers.

Echocardiography (ultrasound) – Provides a definitive diagnosis.

[devastated70]

I appreciate all of the concerns and support... another "worry",,, can all of this be done without "knowing" if he has an enlarged heart.. (special diet, the taurine, Carnitine and coenzyme Q, ie, would it hurt him if he doesn't have an enlarged heart) I KNOW that I need to find out if he does or does not, but the thought of finding out that he DOES, I am not sure that I can handle right now, and i know that sounds terribly selfish but i'm not sure that i can handle looking into his eyes and knowing that any day could be his last, but i know at the same time if i can prevent or prolong his life in any way I want to, but the "knowing" part i'm just not sure that I am strong enough to handle right now.. ??? selfish?

[special]

Aww, you're not selfish you're human.

What I think is this: you have just been through a traumatic shock, and are not in a condition to make any major decisions.

give yourself a few days to assimilate all the information you are acquiring here, talk things over with your vet, and proceed at a rate you are comfortable with.

Of course Ollie's health is a major concern, but you have to keep yourself healthy to keep your pets healthy. So breathe, breathe and cut yourself a little slack.

And stick around and vent to us.

[Irish_Lass]

Its not selfish, you're just worried sick and scared right now. Should you leave it? I wouldn't advise it devastated70. Your dog needs you to be the strong one right now and make the right decisions for him. Trust me, knowing is better than not knowing.

[squashynose]

I think the worry of not knowing it gonna eat away at you. I know you've been through a lot, but the sooner you get the results, the sooner you can start on any treatment necessary. Take a few days, but don't wait too long.

[Wiztherewoz]

There's nothing that can be done to 'fix' the enlarged heart, sadly, but there are meds to prolong and improve the quality of your dog's life.

Sad thing is, when they have an enlarged heart, there are so many problems that can come with it, such as other organs being affected, coughing, difficulty in breathing. It is not nice at all. Ultimately leads to heart failure.
But there are ways of keeping your dog happy and in reasonable health with an enlarged heart, depending on the severity of the condition.

I wish you the best of luck with him. Let us know what you find out after his x-rays. (I wouldn't see the need in having him see a heart specialist until you know for sure that there is actually something wrong with his heart, by the way. Seems strange that the vet suggested that if they haven't even established whether or not he has an enlarged heart at all.)

[devastated70]

awl, thank you so much, i feel so selfish. It is so nice to discuss this with people that REALLY care and consider their pets part of thier families.
Everything that Lisa and Special replied are EXACTLY how I am right now.. I'm still in shock and I am trying to be strong for Ollie and Know that I need to find out but like Special replied, will just need a few days for all of this to sink in, get my back bone and do what is right for Ollie. THANK YOU SO MUCH, I am so glad that I found this site, it really helps.....

[Irish_Lass]

Keep in touch with us as things progress. We're here for you if you need to vent or offload. Thinking of you and Ollie.

[Wiztherewoz]

How does he seem in himself? Are you worried about Ollie's health because of what happened to your other dog, or because he seems unwell? (Sorry, I didn't read your other thread properly. I should probably go back and look properly, rather than asking this here.)

And I agree with the others, this is a lot for anybody to have to contend with and you're doing your best. Cut yourself some slack. But have him seen to asap. Waiting won't help either of you in the long run. x

[devastated70]

He seems ok (other than depressed and grieving), main reason, is that they are brother and sister from the same liter.
But... since Sadie was a puppy her heart seemed to beat MUCH stronger and a little iratic (and this is just from me laying with my head on her chest), and was mentioned and asked the vet, I was concerned then, wondering if it was just the difference between male/female, or her being much bigger than Ollie (Ollie was the runt of the liter), so she was always bigger than him, she weighed about 90 lbs, where ollie is at about 70 lbs, the vet "listened" to her heart and didn't think anything was wrong with it. (but from what I have heard, you can't really diagnose an enlarged heart just from listening to it), I should have followed my gut feeling then.

I agree and know I have to find out
thx

[Wiztherewoz]

Poor lad. He's bound to be downhearted; not only has he lost his sister, he's also got a devastated mum too. I know it's so hard, I honestly do know that you just want to sit and sob when you've lost a beloved dog. And it must be especially hard for you, with Sadie being so young when it happened, and so unexpected too. But, you have to try carrying on as normal for Ollie's sake. Make sure he gets out for his walks, has one on one play time with you, and try to be happier for his sake. As soon as you start to accept that what happened to Sadie wasn't your fault, and as soon as you start to move on, Ollie will start to move on too.

I will be thinking of you guys, and keeping my fingers crossed that all you'll receive from your vet is good news! Think positive. XX

[devastated70]

awl, thanks so much,,, honestly, Ollie is the only thing keeping me going right now, once i'm with him, i am much better... and i will not let him down,,, i make sure he has his walks in the morning and evening come rain or shine and we Definitely spend as much time as possible together and I try to put on a happy face when i'm with him and make sure we have some fun together. He also has a buddy Symen (the cat), they really have a special bond and have from day one, ollie is the only one that can handle symen, ha.. Sadie used to always take care of ollie, make sure his ears were clean, etc, since Sadie's passing, Symen has taken over that role, haha... So there is some laughter in the household, watching them to play is hilarious, a grown german shepherd and a 1 yr old (siamese mix), what a pair,,,,,,
again, thanks so much

[Wiztherewoz]

Awww, bless ya. You sound like a great doggy mum. No matter what happens, Ollie is in the best place he can be. That's what counts.

I wish you both the best of luck with the results. x

[dlaura]

I am so glad you got some replies to your concerns about Ollie.

How sweet that the kitty has taken over the care of Ollie's ears.

Animals are just amazing.

Please remember we are all here for you if you need to talk or if you just want to share memories with other petlovers.

[devastated70]

Thank you so much for putting this out there for me. I am still unfamiliar with all of the capabilities of this site, without your help I would have not received as many thoughtful, caring replies and they have helped me through today.
It's amazing how many animal lovers are actually out there and how great it is to share so many stories and feelings. I am so glad that I found this site and hope to learn my way around it and be able to help other as much as everyone has helped me with my situation. I will keep everyone updated on this particular situation with Ollie.
Thanks so much,,,,,,,,

[FredsMom]

Hope you are doing better!

This may sound strange, so just bear with me. (or is it bare? anyway).

Is your Screenname in reference to your little girl passing? If it is, may I suggest you change it?

Now before anyone freaks out, my request has nothing to do with me or my preferences, rather I'm suggesting it with Devestated in mind. Why?

Words have a strange power. If you continue to say you are devestated, then you'll stay that way. Like, if someone is stressed and talking about it and describes their emotions as "FREAKING OUT!!" Then it actually will create an unnecessary reaction and they really WILL freak out because they think they are and it works you up. Or if you are sad and keep saying "Im so depressed" then you actually CAN fall into a state of depression, when before you may have just been sad. Not that I can't appreciate what you are oging through to a degree, while the sitaution was different (and thus the "degree") i've lost a dog and it was absolutely horrible... and i was, like you, devestated. So Im not saying in ANYWAY you shouldnt feel the way you feel.

BUT in a thought that may help your little boy... if you try to step away from that devestated feeling, or at least stop TELLING yourself that you are, then maybe YOU can begin to heal faster which in turn will help Ollie heal faster because he won't sense that feeling from you.

Dogs are pretty intuitive and even if you're "faking it till you can make it" as I like to say (putting on a smile to hide the frown in other words), Ollie can probably still feel your despair deep down (and again you have every right to be!!!!!). I was just thinking maybe, even if it is something as small as you changing your on here to something that perhaps celebrates Ollie and his sister, or your love for them, then maybe you'll feel better and be able to celebrate her life and move forward to help protect ollie? Ex. instead of a name like "devestated" which is a mourning word... perhaps something like "Adored_Sibs" or something more upbeat, it will be more like a remembrance and celebration of her instead of a mourning? Which in the end, dont we all want to be remembered and celebrated rather than mourned (dog and people alike?)

I dontk now. It was just a thought, and honestly one in terms of wanting to help YOU feel better and help Ollie feel better.

Regardless, I hope you both are doing well and wish you all the luck. Keep us updated on Ollie and we hope you continue coming back here to share the good as well as the bad.

[dlaura]

You know, I was thinking that each time I have replied and thought maybe it was just me, but I think fredsmom might have something here.

It is worth considering at least.

I remember about 10 years ago I was going through some tough times at work and at home, when passing someone in the hall they would say "Hi, how are you" and even though I wasn't fine at all I'd answer back with "Hi, I'm good yourself". I remember thinking one day about why I replied that way and realized that my spirits did lift some when I said I was fine.

So by giving yourself a more positive username you may begin to feel a bit more positive about things.

[devastated70]

thank you for the thoughts, and you are probably right, at the time of signing up, I was really devestated and was just the first thing that came to mind, but everything that both of you said makes alot of sense. I am not very familiar with how to do everything on here, would i just join again under a new name or update my file, and if so, how? And no, I don't want to stay "devestated", was just the state of mind i was in when i joined.. I do enjoy this site so much and have received so many nice replies.

[dlaura]

I think the easiest thing to do would be to just sign up again using whatever username you've decided on and just in the introductory forum just begin a thread something like

Hi, I was formerly known as devastated70 and am now going to be known as XXXXXXXXX. If you have any problem just let me know and we'll figure it out. I'm glad you are enjoying it here.

[devastated70]

Thanks, i will try to do as soon as i can.. need to come up with a new name..

[dlaura]

You're welcome. No hurry, just post under this one until you think of a new one.

[tiffers]

I just read this thread, kind of fast...so if I've missed something, I'm sorry...ahead of time.

I know that you are upset and that you are shocked...maybe almost in denial. That's perfectly normal and there's no way to wake up one day with all those feelings gone. You may always have them.

I will however tell you that if you can save up the finances, get to a specialist. Yes, a regular vet can get Ollie on heart medications and do a work up and whatnot, but that Specialist is more in tune with the heart. They specialize in the heart, not general medicine. Rads and Ultrasounds are a perfect way to diagnose this condition, as said already.

I don't know that you should put it off for too long...sometimes, when people wait...it becomes more dangerous and more pricey. Whatever you do, I can only beg you to NOT wait this out.

What if he doesn't have a bad heart? What if he's normal...!? You've got that peace of mind for a while. It may come later, but for now...you can go to sleep at night not worrying if Ollie's heart will give up while you're sleeping.

Bad hearts don't just cause death. They can all sorts of terrible health problems. Breathing trouble, circulation trouble, blood pressure trouble, eye problems, ascites, etc. So many things that can so easily be prevented if you know...

When you get the courage, time, and money...please have him checked by the specialist.

[devastated70]

I have talked with my vet and plan to have an xray done first, he should be able to tell something by the xray, and if it is uncertain, then i will take him to the specialist and go from there. I know I can't and do not need to wait and need to find out so that we can start the process that is best for him. I have had his blood work done and all of that came back fine, just need to get the xray and go from there.. Wish me luck..
thanks for your suggestions and support

[tiffers]

I am glad you're taking him in for an x-ray. I am hoping that the possible congenital heart condition missed him, and that he is okay. Please keep us updated.

[devastated70]

Please keep us in your prayers,,, I am a nervous wreck and only hope and pray that his heart is ok. But know I have to get it done for him, just hard, i will try to stay positive and hope for the BEST... hopefully it will turn out good and i will be able to sleep a little better at night

[dlaura]

I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. You are doing what is best for him, and many times that is very hard to do. I commend you.

We are here if you need to talk.

Hopefully as Tiffers hopes, maybe the heart defect will have missed him.

Fingers crossed for you both.

[special]

Please keep us in your prayers,,, I am a nervous wreck and only hope and pray that his heart is ok. But know I have to get it done for him, just hard, i will try to stay positive and hope for the BEST... hopefully it will turn out good and i will be able to sleep a little better at night

I'll be thinking of you and Ollie tomorrow. Do please let us know what you find out.

[devastated70]

Thanks so much,,,, I really appreciate all of the support.. everyone has helped me get through the last couple of days, and given me the strength to do what I Know I need to do... hopefully the next few days will be good news..

I will be sure to let everyone know the results, his appt is not until Monday afternoon, that is the quickest I could get him in.

[Wiztherewoz]

Please keep us in your prayers,,, I am a nervous wreck and only hope and pray that his heart is ok. But know I have to get it done for him, just hard, i will try to stay positive and hope for the BEST... hopefully it will turn out good and i will be able to sleep a little better at night

Of course we will all be wishing the best for Ollie! :)

Think positive. Even if only for Ollie's sake. You don't want him picking up on your nerves when he's at the vets, or he'll be nervous too. Be brave, be confident. Even if the results are not what we're all wishing for, the sooner you know about it and start any required treatment the better.

We're all hoping our hearts out and crossing all our fingers and toes that you will be back on Monday with good news.

You really, really deserve for all to go well.

From the bottom of my heart, good luck. And if you need to talk in the meantime, we're here. x

[devastated70]

thanks so much,,,,
I'll try on the nervous part, he does not like to go to the vet in the first place and know he is NOT going to like this xray stuff.. i'll try to be strong.... for him...

your shepherds are so beautiful.... i miss my sadie soooooooo much,,,,, i hope to get some pics posted soon.. (if i can figure it out)... i know in time, things will be ok, but for right now, my home feels so empty without her , it is so hard,,, she was always my "ray of shunshine" in the mornings, just so happy and ready to play at any time... she brought me so much joy, she was the nurturer and would cuddle with me at night and was always at my side... Do you know the song "ain't no sunshine since she's gone".... that's my sadie.. I love Ollie and he is my sweet boy, has always been a mama's boy, but isn't a "cuddler", either sadie was taking care of him, or I was taking care of him... just different bonds with the two of them, wouldn't take anything for either one of them... and wish we could have all grown old together.. BUT I still have Ollie and I'm sure our bond will only get stronger

Thanks for all of the encouragement.....

[Wiztherewoz]

Awww. :( I can't imagine how awful it must have been for you, losing your best girl so unexpectedly. I'm so sorry. Jeez, you brought tears to my eyes. If I'd known my stupid picture would upset you, I'd not have put it on, sorry. x

[devastated70]

no reason to be sorry,,,, i love the pics...

the JOY of my days was watching Sadie and Ollie Play together.. no matter when i walked outside, sadie always grabbed the closest thing to her, stick, rock, toy, shoe, etc.. and wanted me to chase her... and ollie sure wasn't aloud to touch "her" toys (sticks, rocks, shoes, etc, ha), he would tease her and then run to me for the rescue, ha, i'm sure you enjoy yours just as much as i have / do mine....
she was a good girl... and for whatever reason, her life was cut short, but i am so thankful that I had her in my life....

[Wiztherewoz]

Well, unfortunately one of mine is the spawn of evil, but yes I do love them to pieces. I lost my old dog over a year ago, and am still aching every day from missing him. And he was 14, so I honestly can't imagine how hard it must be for you, having lost your baby so young. It's not fair. But you're right to look at it the way you do, to be glad she was with you. Because you gave her a great life of love, and she had her brother and her best friend with her. She was a lucky girl to have lived her life to the full, however short.

[devastated70]

oh yea, i have lost previous babies, and still hurt and ache missing them.. but like you said, were mostly to old age, eventho it is hard (and still think about and miss them daily), it's easier to accept when they live long healthy lives, but to lose one that young and so unexpected,,, i just feel cheated.. oh believe me, it's not every day that i think of it that way,,, i have been really MAD some days and think how unfair it is, but just have to think that she was taken from me to serve a much higher mission and I guess it was just meant for me to choose her and her be with me for the time she was on this earth... if i had chose a different one, i wouldn't of been blessed to bond with her sweet soul... and will always have a bond and know I will always have a very special guardian angel, always protecting me, the way she did when she was with me,,,,

what are your babies names?

[Wiztherewoz]

I don't blame you for being mad at all, I would be too. I lost my most precious cat, Shadow, when he was only two years old. I loved that cat with all my heart, I'm still angry and upset that he's not still with me like he should be. He'd be thirteen now.

The two in the picture are Tara Lee and Frankie. Frankie is the evil one. Tara is an angel.

You have a way with words, you've got me teary again...

[devastated70]

oh yea, i'm sure that I will be mad for a very long time and will never understand why she was taken from me.. anyone that knows me knows that they are my world... I am single and really do not go anywhere, like to be home with my babies, I try to live right and all I ever really ask for is for my family (human and animals), be safe and healthy, and since the day I got these babies I have prayed that they would at least live as long as my other babies and for them to be healthy... so sometimes, i just do not understand why so much was taken from me, when I didn't think that I asked for much..

i'm sorry about your kitty... i lost my kitty in june of 2008, she was 21 years old,,, i got her when i was 16 years old,, and has been my best friend through thick and thin, it was tough and still is,,, but 21 yrs old is a great blessing...

thanks,,, it's all just from my heart and what she means to me...

they are precious...
the lighter one, looks alot like sadie, and my ollie is a solid black shepherd, he was always the instigator and sadie was always the "serious" one... whenever they did anything wrong sadie knew they were in trouble, but Ollie,, ha.. is always like "WHAT".. See what we did,,, didn't we do a good job.. hahaha,,, Sadie would be standing over there, looking like she was thinking.. "would you shut up, we are in trouble".. hahahah,,, she got her feelings hurt real easy, so was hard to get on to her,,, and ollie is so silly, just have to laugh at him,,,,

[Wiztherewoz]

Awww, bless 'em. You really are a good person, and I will be thinking of you and Ollie and Monday. If there is any kindness in the world, he will get the all clear. X

[Wiztherewoz]

Have you been with him yet? How did it go?

Hope everything's okay. x

[devastated70]

Getting ready to leave work now to go take him to the vet......
WISH US LUCK....... I will let everyone know what the xray show tomorrow,
thanks so much for asking, please say a quick prayer for us that everything will be ok...

[Wiztherewoz]

GOOD LUCK!

Fingers, toes, paws, claws, everything crossed here for you and Ollie.

Positive thoughts! x

[FredsMom]

GOOD LUCK!

Fingers, toes, paws, claws, everything crossed here for you and Ollie.

Positive thoughts! x

Second that!

[Irish_Lass]

Well, how did it go?? Really hopeful for you!

[dlaura]

GOOD LUCK!

Fingers, toes, paws, claws, everything crossed here for you and Ollie.

Positive thoughts! x

I'll third that! Hope it went well.

[devastated70]

GREAT NEWS.... Ollie's Heart Xray's were normal / good... YIPPEEEE... I was so nervous, but the vet said that everything looked good. He even showed me the difference comparing Sadie's xray's to Ollies'... so THANK EVERYONE for all of the support, good wishes, thoughts, prayers, fingers, toes, paws crossed for us.. it worked.. we had also had his blood work done on April 20th and all of that was good too

Any opinions/suggestions on a good dog food (diet) can and dry to have Ollie on to keep him healthy inside and out?

[special]

Oh that is just wonderful, and thanks for sharing the great news with us right away. And now you have the records to use as comparison for alter in his life

congratulations to you and Ollie!

[devastated70]

special---- how are you doing since your loss? i know it is hard, still very hard for me every day... hopefully it will get better for both of us... best wishes.. and thanks again for all of your support and encouraging words......

[special]

special---- how are you doing since your loss? i know it is hard, still very hard for me every day... hopefully it will get better for both of us... best wishes.. and thanks again for all of your support and encouraging words......

Aw, you're nice to remember and ask. well I'm up and down. I have hours now that I am okay, but then something will trigger me and I become overwhelmed with sadness and longing for her. I miss her so much.

I can imagine that losing one so young must be difficult to get over too. Knowing Ollie is healthy hopefully helps.

It's the one downside of having pets, but I would not be able to live without them.

Time does make it easier. Life goes on, as some less understanding people have said to me, but I will not deny myself the grieving process.

[dlaura]

I am so happy to hear the good news!!!!! Wishing the best for you and Ollie in the years to come!

I'll let others suggest dog foods and such - as I don't really get into that subject.

You must be so very relieved, and so are we for you both!

I hope you'll stick around and share pictures with us and just be a part of petlovers for years to come.

[devastated70]

totally agree....

I have lost some to old age, and now one so young, and the pain hurts no matter what age they are. I do feel very cheated losing her at such a young age and had so many plans for all of our (me, sadie, ollie) future.. but God must have had a different plan for her sweet soul.. I am still very thankful for the time that I did have with her, but also makes me so sad how great our future could have been. BUT YES, knowing Ollie is healthy has taken some stress/depression off of me and actually "fell out" last night and slept through the night..

understand the Hour to Hour,,, I think I pretty much cried off and on all Day Sunday (Mother's Day),,,, I DO have to share this story with everyone, even if you do not believe as I do:

Saturday Night/Sunday Morning (1:30 am)- Mother's Day, I was praying, in my prayers I always talk to the babies I have lost, and when I was talking to Sadie my song for Her (Ain't No Sunshine Since She's Gone) came on the radio--- it is the first time that I have actually heard it on the radio since she passed 3 weeks ago... I HAD to believe it was my baby trying to relate to me... Some people may think that is just Coincidence... but I have to believe that my baby was sending me a message...

Good luck and I hope it gets easier for both of us soon..
do you have other pets?

[devastated70]

oh yes, dlaura i don't plan to go anywhere, I love this site.. everyone has helped me so much... it is great to find a place that you can talk about your babies all day... I know people around me get tired of hearing about mine, but is really all i care to talk about, haha.. (and hate the "just a dog" phrase,,,,, from other people)...

[tiffers]

I am so glad about Ollie's heart. That's great news!

[special]

totally agree....

I have lost some to old age, and now one so young, and the pain hurts no matter what age they are. I do feel very cheated losing her at such a young age and had so many plans for all of our (me, sadie, ollie) future.. but God must have had a different plan for her sweet soul.. I am still very thankful for the time that I did have with her, but also makes me so sad how great our future could have been. BUT YES, knowing Ollie is healthy has taken some stress/depression off of me and actually "fell out" last night and slept through the night..

understand the Hour to Hour,,, I think I pretty much cried off and on all Day Sunday (Mother's Day),,,, I DO have to share this story with everyone, even if you do not believe as I do:

Saturday Night/Sunday Morning (1:30 am)- Mother's Day, I was praying, in my prayers I always talk to the babies I have lost, and when I was talking to Sadie my song for Her (Ain't No Sunshine Since She's Gone) came on the radio--- it is the first time that I have actually heard it on the radio since she passed 3 weeks ago... I HAD to believe it was my baby trying to relate to me... Some people may think that is just Coincidence... but I have to believe that my baby was sending me a message...

Good luck and I hope it gets easier for both of us soon..
do you have other pets?

I believe it.

thank you. I hope so too. for both of us.

yes I have three other cats, ages 10, 5 and 3. they are all special needs. hey, what's your kitty's name? adorable little fellow.

[devastated70]

his name is Symen (pronounced SI-MEN), used letters from my previous babies (that i have lost recently to spell his name), and I believe he has some siamese in his genes, and also, you know the game SIMON SAYS.. he thought he was the boss from the moment he walked in to the house.. he is a booger.. but that face,,, i'll have to post new pics,,, he has gotten so handsome, but a little monster.....

[DoggieVogue]

Yay for you and Ollie!!! That is great news!:)