Another Problem with Little Man!!

[blueparadise]

Oh no! Another problem with Little Man! His winky is hanging out. I know that it is normal for boy dogs at this age to hang out. But, he acts like he can not put it back in. It is out and hanging down. Not 'hard' like most. I just got home and his winky is still hanging out and it has dirt all overit. WHAT AM I GOING TO DO NOW!!! This is getting to be real expensive. I love him sooo much!! It is not so much about the money, but the vets here don't seem to know anything!!! I took him to the vet the first time in Tallahassee. The said maybe he would outgrow all the problems. That maybe he just needed to mature more. Now this! I don't know what to do about this. It des not seem to be painful to him. Does anyone have ay suggestions to fix a broken winky? I have to work the next 4 days. And my vet is closed for graduation of some of the student Doc's. HELP!!!

Blue

[dlaura]

Oh Blue, I have to share with you I was sitting on couch last night and hubby was on other end and I burst out laughing last night when I was reading this - sorry but it just struck me funny at the time. My hubby listened as I read it to him and didn't think it was funny at all - he said to me "well that is a woman for you".

Believe me I am not finding your ongoing problems with Blue funny - it was just the way you described it all - if this was a new member I'd of thought ..........well that someone was pulling our leg.

I am sorry I have no idea what to tell you to do about Blue's current issue. Is it any better today I hope? Wonder how this all came about.

My heart goes out to you both and all you have been going through with him.

I guess no one else has any ideas either?????? Come on folks - has anyone else ever experienced this before. I've always had female dogs/cats so cannot be of any help.

[Wiztherewoz]

This is actually a serious problem, and if you can't get it to go back in yourself you will need to keep it lubricated with petroleum jelly and get him to a vet as soon as possible.

Here's a tip on how to get it back in: http://www.ehow.com/how_2212990_treat-genital-injuries-dogs.html

I don't know if that will work, but good luck. How long has it been stuck out now?

[dlaura]

Thanks Heather for helping Blue out. I was feeling bad that no one had any ideas.

Poor little Blue has been through so much in his short life. I hope Blue's mom is able to get it to retract.

[Macawpower58]

Is it still out? Many pups/young dogs masturbate to an extreme extent. I'd try and massage it back into the sheath. I do have one altered male that seems to be 'semi-fixed' as he gets excited, and his penis also seems to 'get stuck'. I've massaged it back into the sheath, as it swells up and doesn't seem to go back in easily.

Here are instructions that I've used before.


Step1
Look for hair stuck to the penis. No hair should be around the penis. The hair is all on the protective sheath that the penis retracts into.

Step2
Remove any hair that is stuck to the penis by gently cleaning the area with warm water. If some hair will not come off the penis, clip the hair with nail clippers.

Step3
Lubricate the penis with petroleum jelly or a water-based personal lubricant.

Step4
Wait five minutes for the penis to retract back into the protective sheath.

Step5
Pour sugar on the penis if it is still stuck out. Sugar will make the penis shrink by removing some of the fluid from the penile tissues.

Step6
Leave the sugar on the penis for five minutes. Rinse the sugar off the penis.

Step7
Cover the penis with a wet towel and contact your veterinarian if the penis is still stuck out of the protective sheath. Keep the towel wet to prevent further injury to the penis.

[Macawpower58]

It seems Heather and I use the same sites when looking for answers!

[Macawpower58]

Here is another link that has some suggestions beyond what Heather and I first gave.

http://www.justanswer.com/questions/18iuq-male-10month-puppy-penis-stuck

[Wiztherewoz]

I've heard of a dog that had it stuck out so long it went dry and started to go black. If it won't go back in, it's very important to get to the vet as soon as possible.

[Wiztherewoz]

It seems Heather and I use the same sites when looking for answers!

Great minds... ;) :D

[dlaura]

Oh gosh, I never realized it could be so serious. Blue we are hoping for an update and do hope all is ok with the little man.

I didn't reply last night as I had no idea/advice. Never occurred to me to search the net. By evening my brain has shut down and I think goes to sleep. Just figured someone who had male dogs would be along to help shortly.

So, please let us know how little man is doing.

[blueparadise]

Thanks everyone.:hail: Hey dlaura, Little Man is the pups name, I'm Blueparadise.:o Wiztherewoz, it is still out today. I can manually retract it into the sheath, but it will not stay. I spoke with the vet today and she said to give him Clavimox 125mg, 1 BID, as I had it on hand. And a baby asprin a day. Also to apply ice to it. (figure out how I am supposed to do that?) She also said if it will not stay in the may have to stitch it closed and just leave a hole to pee through. She said that his brain is just not sending the message to his back end. (tail, rectum, penis, etc). Nothing much else to do as far as I know. I just hope it does not keep n getting worse. Thanks everyone for their answers.:hail: I did not realize it was that serious of a problem. Thanks Macawpower58, I will try this when I get home tomorrow. I am getting him to the vet Monday. Then aroun the first of the month they are going to neuter him and see if they can do anything about his Neuro problems. I remember during the births, that their was one puppy that I have to revive. Had been in the birth canal too long, butt first, its sack already broken. I had to deliver it and revive it with mouth to snout. But I dn't remember if it was him or not. My husband keeps saying that we need to get rid of him. He poos on the porch ever day. I love the little guyso much though! His sister is so attached to him. I let him out the back door the other day and she was around front. She barked until he got around to her. As if to give him the idea of which way to go to get to her.

Blue

[dlaura]

Blueparadise said: "Hey dlaura, Little Man is the pups name, I'm Blueparadise."

Ooops, I knew that! LOL I just typed Blue in that post (twice) when I actually meant man. Smacking myself in the head here.

Poor Little Man, he has been having quite a rough time of things. I'm glad Becky & Heather were able to offer some help to you & Little Man.

Please forgive me for even telling you I laughed when I first read your post - I had no idea how serious this could be!

[Julia423]

Any update? Is the little guy doing ok?

[tiffers]

I, too, am curious as to how he's doing. There is a bone in the penis in dogs, any chance he may have broken it? Does it hurt him when you touch it?

He's a puppy right? There are a quite a few little boy dogs who get infections in their sheaths. We actually have to go in a flush the sheath regular and pump the dog full of antibiotics. Do you have a full 14 days worth of the Clavamox? If not, I definitely suggest you getting more.

[blueparadise]

Sorry guys. I haven't been on for a few days. When I work my 3, 16 hour shifts, by the time I get home, I just fall into bed. Yes, his penis is still out. Sorry dlaura, my 9 year old was hanging over my shoulder whe I was typing and I was trying to explain things to her as well. Whn I went back and read it, I laughed too. I typed as if I was talking to her and not to adults who know about animals. Sorry all. I have tried to put his penis back in the sheath, but it keeps coming back out. He keeps getting it dirty. I keep cleaning it and trying to keep it moist. It has been work, thats for sure. Tiff, I only have 7 days worth of Clavamox. The vet said to give him 1 twice a day ad a baby asprin a day. If it continues, she said they could stitch it closed and just leave a small hole for him to pee. He does not seem to be painful to him. He is not licking it or anything.

Blue

[tiffers]

That is just so interesting...poor guy. Are you taking him in to have it sewn?

[blueparadise]

Yes as soon as possible. I tried the sugar thing. When I went to clean it off good, I thought it was a hair on it like Macawpower58 said. But it ended up being a piece of skin. It pulled off and now it is bleeding!!:eek: I put the vasoline on it and then the sugar, waited 5 minutes, rinsed and slid the penis back into its sheath. I stayed until he stood up and then it came back out again!! Now it is bleeding and hanging out!!:( I am trying to keep it covered with wet gauze but the blood is slowly dripping through. Called the on call vet and he said to just keep it moist and clean until tomorrow. I HATE the vets around here, they don't seem to care if they are not dying or something!:mad: He still does not seem to be in pain, but with all the other neuro problems he has, he may not be able to feel it. I am at my wits end!!!:headbang:

Blue

[Irish_Lass]

Poor, poor, poor wee man. :(

[dlaura]

Sorry guys. I haven't been on for a few days. When I work my 3, 16 hour shifts, by the time I get home, I just fall into bed. Yes, his penis is still out. Sorry dlaura, my 9 year old was hanging over my shoulder whe I was typing and I was trying to explain things to her as well. Whn I went back and read it, I laughed too.

Thanks for explaining that Blue - I felt so bad for even telling you I had laughed when I learned how serious it could be. So, glad to hear you laughed too - now I don't feel so badly. :)


I typed as if I was talking to her and not to adults who know about animals. Sorry all. I have tried to put his penis back in the sheath, but it keeps coming back out. He keeps getting it dirty. I keep cleaning it and trying to keep it moist. It has been work, thats for sure.

I can't imagine you could possibly do enough to keep it clean if it is just hanging out all the time. Poor Little Man.

Tiff, I only have 7 days worth of Clavamox. The vet said to give him 1 twice a day ad a baby asprin a day. If it continues, she said they could stitch it closed and just leave a small hole for him to pee. He does not seem to be painful to him. He is not licking it or anything.

Hopefully this will be a question that Tiff can answer, but I am imagining that stitching it closed, except for a small hole to pee through would make it more subject to bacteria build-up etc which could cause frequent infections. Would this be true or not Tiff?

Blue

Ok, it is telling me once again my message is too short as I typed it all within your post. You'd think I would learn! LOL

[tiffers]

Diane, I'm not sure about stitching it closed. We've never done that, but it certainly makes sense. Not all the pee is going out the hole, you know.

[Wiztherewoz]

Ugh, that poor, poor dog, that's just awful. Have you booked him in for the earliest appointment tomorrow? This needs sorting out asap. Good luck, I'm wishing the best for the poor guy.

[dlaura]

Diane, I'm not sure about stitching it closed. We've never done that, but it certainly makes sense. Not all the pee is going out the hole, you know.


Yes, I know, and I was concerned it might make matters worse instead of better.

[blueparadise]

They open at 9:00am. I amgong to be standing at their door at 8:30!! I just hate all this that is going on with him. What quality of life os he gong to have with all these continued problems? I love my Little Man though and he is sure worth it to me. My husband gets so mad at him because he insists on pooing on the porch and not on the ground. He will poo on his bed, in the crate, just wherever he wants to. But he will not poo on the ground. Go figure. Tiff, do you know, what is the purpose of the baby asprin a day? For pain or swelling, or both?

Blue

[tiffers]

Tiff, do you know, what is the purpose of the baby asprin a day? For pain or swelling, or both?

We don't ever recommend aspirin because of the risk of ulcers. But, yes...it would most likely be for pain and swelling.

[blueparadise]

What would be better in this case? I know you can't give certain things to dogs. Anything better than asprin? He loves to get in the pond. Is this going to hurt him? I worry about mud and junk getting in it and on it. And the risk of infection.

Blue

[dlaura]

You know Blue, your statement that Little Man will poo anywhere but on the ground - makes me wonder if he has no feeling at all in that region of his body for some reason. Would just seem to make sense since he is in no pain right now with what he is going thru - maybe his brain just hasn't developed to where he can be potty trained.

How does his sister do in these same areas? I am thinking if she is trained and he just doesn't seem to pick up, something is definitely wrong.

[blueparadise]

OMG!!:eek: I don't believe it! Low and behold! I just checked on Little Man and for the first time in over a month that his penis is inn its sheath!! :yikes: I don't know how long it will stay in but for now it is in. He was in the pond a while ago and maybe with the sugar and the wet gauze and the cold water. Maybe that is what helped. I don't know and I don't care as long as he is OK. I am still going totake him in the morning. I don't want to go through this again! It is time to get him neutered anyway.

Blue

[tiffers]

I'm glad it went in! Finally! Hooray! And, that's great that you're still taking him in!

[blueparadise]

Well, I shouldn't count my chickens before their hatched. It's back out again!! In again, out again. Yeah, dlaura, that's what we think. The vet originally thought that his brain just needed to catch up and mature. He does have some feeling there but not much. When they did all the tests in
Tallahasse, they said he had a little pucker but not much. Now my vet here seems to think the brain is not receiving the message from certain parts of his back end. He can not wag his tail either. That is why I said, what quality of life will he have if these problems keep occuring?:02:

Blue

[Shotsie]

i don't know much about dogs, well really nothing besides how to feed them, love them, etc.. But i hope all is well with ur little guys "Winky". Hope he gets better.

[dlaura]

That is why I said, what quality of life will he have if these problems keep occuring?:02:
Blue


Well I'd have to say he will have an OK life as long as you keep him and continue to love him as you do. It really seems like he is unaware of anything being wrong and doesn't sound as if he is unhappy or in any pain so ......... guess it depends if you are willing to go the extra mile (or more) that being his care taker will require.

It sounds like his big sister is a big help.

I will be very interested to hear what the vet has to say upon seeing him tomorrow. So, I'll be watching for an update.

[blueparadise]

Tinker-Belle, (his sister) is totally housebroken. She does look after him. She will watch after him, when the cars pull in or out of the driveway. Make sure he comes outside and that he is OK. He will not let her eat though. He makes himself a hog. He walks normal most of the time. He just has a slight limp, once in a while. I don't know if I will be able to sleep tonight, worrying about him and the vet visit tomorrow.

Blue

[Macawpower58]

I'm praying the vet can help your poor pup.

[dlaura]

I'm praying the vet can help your poor pup.


Same here. I hope he gets an early appt.

[blueparadise]

His appt is not until 1:00. I put vasoline on it last night. I mean really gobbed it on and it seemed to help some. It is only out about 1/2" now. Which is less than it was. It still looks red and raw but not bleeding now. The vet said they would put 1-2 stitches in it to help hold it in while the meds reduce the swelling and keep the infection out. I'm still kind of upset with them though because they act like its not a big deal. Well it is to me!! I will post again tonight after we see the vet this afternoon.

Blue

[dlaura]

Ok, thanks for the update. I guess after a while even vets tend to become lackadaisical about things. Maybe in their minds they don't see it as serious as they know you have no plans to breed him.

[blueparadise]

Went to the vet today. They Put 2 stitches in. Gave me some antibiotics and steroids. But guess what, it is back out again. They suggested keeping vasoline on it. It continues to bleed. Suggested that I try the sugar thing again. I may or may not. They also suggested putting ice on it. How do they expect me to do that? I have talked to Basset Rescue today and they are going to try and get me some help in trying to get him rehabilitated. She is going to call me back tomorrow. I wish I knew a vet that could help in this area and would work with me on the money situation. I am at a lose as to what to do with him.

Blue

[dlaura]

Did they advise that neutering might help the problem and suggest doing it asap? Sorry if I appear out of line here but I think it is time for you to try another vet.

It certainly can't be healthy for Little Man to go thru life with this issue. When they put the two stitches in did it help even for a while? This is just baffling to me.

[blueparadise]

Yes it helped until he got home and went to running around with his sister and Abby. I have been trying to find another vet, someone who will do more for him. But in this area they are few and far between. Yes, I asked them about neutering him. They said to wait until after this heals and after the steroids are done. I would rather go through with it now instead of later. But I don't want to put him in any harm. It's baffling to me too dlaura. I have never seen this problem in a dog before and I have had many, many of them over the years. His brain is just not telling his body to work the way it should.

Blue

[dlaura]

Do you think you should call the vet and let them know that the stitches didn't help? I would think a follow-up visit shouldn't cost that much (if anything) as obviously what the vet did yesterday didn't work. Maybe the stitches didn't hold and popped out or something.

[blueparadise]

Sorry I haven't updated in a couple of days. I have been at work. We had to make a tough decision about Little Man. I had contacted all the Basset rescues in FL about getting some fiancial help as well as sending us in the right direction. In talking with Suncoast Basset Rescue, and Basset Rescue of FL, they would not help me unless we gave him up to them. My husband, my daughter and I took 2 days writng down and discussing the pros and cons. Ms Linda from Basset Rescue of FL talked with us in length and told us what they could do for him. There was just not any vets here that could do the things that their vets in South FL can do. So we had to make the tearful decision to give him up.:17: He went straight to the vet. We are very sad here at this time. We miss him very much. But for his sake and to get him to a vet who can help him, I have to swallow my pride and hide my sadness and selfishness in wanting to keep him:( They have vets in South Florida that can help him in all ways and I would not be able to take him their and afford it. He will get help and live a better life. His sister really misses him too. Me and my daughter cried for 2 days. My husband says he misses picking up the poo after him and watching his long ears drag the ground.:( I hope you all understand that I did not just give him away because I did not want the headache or the money thing. It was mainly for his good. I have never wanted him to go to someone who would mistreat him or abuse him. I know they will take good care of him. Ms Linda said we could go to their website and check on him and to call her any time. For all of you who have followed the trials and tribulations of Little Man, Thank You for all your answers, help, caring, love and devotion to this website and to all of us who need someone. Sorry this has been so long but I am very sad. This feels as if I have had a death in the family.
Again THANK YOU! From the bottom of my heart.:kiss:
Blue

[blueparadise]

I just spoke with Ms Linda. She says Little Man is at the vet. Nothing has showed up on xrays. Their vet is consulting with University of Aulburn (AL), school. Se is a graduate from their and they are consulting to see if they can figure out what might be wrong with him. I KNEW THEY WOULD HELP!:) She is going to keep me updated as to what is going on with him as days go by.

Blue

[That_girl]

Wow, sounds like you really had to make a hard decision. You did the right thing by getting him some help. He's in good hands.

It will take time to get used to it, but you have your lovely other dogs to help you get through it. :) They understand you did the right thing. His sister will miss him, but she'll be alright. She still has mom.

[tiffers]

I think you made an awesome decision, Blue. Sure, you don't have him anymore...but, he's getting help he deserves. He will get a loving home and he will be a healthier boy because of all this. He has you to thank for that. :D

[blueparadise]

It's just real hard right now. I put so much into trying to keep him healthy and safe and happy. I know in my heart that I did the right thing. It just hurts! I hope I everything right in the 5 1/2 months that I was his mommy. He will never be forgotten. Thanks, That-girl and Tiff for the words of encouragement. My other doggies HAVE helped me get through the last few days.

Blue

[tiffers]

I know it's hard...but, you must find some peace in knowing he has a much better quality of life right now. I'm not, by any means, saying you were bad...but, your vets weren't offering to help him, you know.

[Macawpower58]

I so agree with the others. This is a rehome that is great! I'm so sorry you're missing him, but what you did was selfless, and you must have a huge heart to send the pup you love away, just so he can have a better chance of a good life.

Thumbs up to you Blueparadise.

[special]

Sorry I haven't updated in a couple of days. I have been at work. We had to make a tough decision about Little Man. I had contacted all the Basset rescues in FL about getting some fiancial help as well as sending us in the right direction. In talking with Suncoast Basset Rescue, and Basset Rescue of FL, they would not help me unless we gave him up to them. My husband, my daughter and I took 2 days writng down and discussing the pros and cons. Ms Linda from Basset Rescue of FL talked with us in length and told us what they could do for him. There was just not any vets here that could do the things that their vets in South FL can do. So we had to make the tearful decision to give him up.:17: He went straight to the vet. We are very sad here at this time. We miss him very much. But for his sake and to get him to a vet who can help him, I have to swallow my pride and hide my sadness and selfishness in wanting to keep him:( They have vets in South Florida that can help him in all ways and I would not be able to take him their and afford it. He will get help and live a better life. His sister really misses him too. Me and my daughter cried for 2 days. My husband says he misses picking up the poo after him and watching his long ears drag the ground.:( I hope you all understand that I did not just give him away because I did not want the headache or the money thing. It was mainly for his good. I have never wanted him to go to someone who would mistreat him or abuse him. I know they will take good care of him. Ms Linda said we could go to their website and check on him and to call her any time. For all of you who have followed the trials and tribulations of Little Man, Thank You for all your answers, help, caring, love and devotion to this website and to all of us who need someone. Sorry this has been so long but I am very sad. This feels as if I have had a death in the family.
Again THANK YOU! From the bottom of my heart.:kiss:
Blue

Wow. What a fantastic unselfish thing to do. Hurray for you and your family for caring so much.

[blueparadise]

Thanks all for the words of encouragement.:) I know as time goes on, it will get easier. Belle, Abby, and Tinker-Belle are helping alot. They seem to know that I am hurting and are extra loving. Thanks all. I will keep you updated as I find out information.

Blue

[dlaura]

Blue I am so sorry you were forced to make this decision, but bless you and your family for doing what is best for "Little Man". He will get the help he so desparately needs and you couldn't find for him near you.

Yes, it will be hard at first, but remember you did what is best for Little Man and for that you should be very proud!

[dlaura]

Just had one more thought here Blue. I wanted to extend a big thank you to you for coming back and updating us. That had to be hard to come back and share. We really appreciate the continued updates also. So, Thank You.

[blueparadise]

Thanks dlaura. It was hard to come back and post that. It tookk me a while to do it. I don't know, after some things that were said in the past here, I kind of expected to get at least one person totell me I was wrong for what I did. Or to say, 'I never should have bred my dog', blah, blah, blah. I shouldn't have tought of the past though. With a few exceptions, you guys have always supported me. Sorry if this hurts anyones feelings.:frown: I don't mean to. I just didn't want to hear I was bad, when I have been so sad. Again thanks everyone for you heartfelt posts, and I hope noone gets offended or hurt by what I said.

Blue

[dlaura]

You're welcome Blue, as I truly believe what I said to you.

I had wondered if you possibly had any of the thoughts you shared with us just now. Hopefully no one will be hurt that you've shared your concerns with us over that, if given thought it shows that you heard what was said back then and unfortunately have realized you learned the hard way so to speak - for which I am sorry for as no one would have wished that on either you or Little Man.

It shows what a good person you are that in spite the fact you might have received those type of reactions - you bit the bullet and gave us an update unlike so many others who have not.

So, again my heartfelt THANKS!

[blueparadise]

I took the advice back then with a grain of salt. Listened and learned (yes the hard way). I even emailed her after all that and told her I was sorry fr everything that was said. I told her I would pray for both of us. When she came back for a short time, I emailed her to please come back. That alot of us had learned from what she had to say. You know, noone on here is out to hurt their animals. Either by neglect or by not providing care for them. We all try our best to take care of our critters. We come here for advice from other animal lovers. Not to take that advice over a vet. But we dn't come here to be told that we are terrible and need our animals taken away from us. Sorry, I needed to vent. Enough said. Thanks for being understanding.;)

Blue

[dlaura]

Again I am sorry about what happened when you first spoke about breeding your dog. Hopefully amends have been made since than.

Any new news on Little Man?

[blueparadise]

I don't knw about amends? I haven't heard from her and no responds to my emails. But I am OK with it. No news yet at this time. I will try and call her tomorrow.

Blue

[dlaura]

LOL I meant that most of us came through for you and did our best to help you with your questions and with Little Man.

Ok, I'll be watching to see if you hear anything.

Hugs, Diane

[blueparadise]

Yes you all did come through for me and back then also. I remember more enncouragement than negativism. Most of you have stood by me through 2 litters of pups, birthing, heat, problems with mommy's nipples, problems with rehoming when some backed out of the deal, and problems with Little Man. I so appreciate you all!:biggthumpup: The advice has always been informative and useful. No hard feelings here. I enjoy coming here and finding good information about critters. Thanks to all who post here.

Blue

[blueparadise]

Spoke with Ms Linda this morning. She said they had done a lot of extensive blood work on him, xrays, CT scan, ect. They have sent all of this info to the Aulburn University Shcool of Vet Science. They are waiting to hear back from the professors with answers to see if they can figure it out. She said she would call me this next week when they may have some answers. I will update as soon as I know something. I surely do miss him. My daughter took some still pics and a video of him when he was leaving. I will post them as soon as I get them downloaded to my computer.

Blue

[dlaura]

Thanks for the update/news Blue! I can't wait to hear if they find out anything - hopefully they will.

Will look forward to seeing the videos when you've got them uploaded.