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Buggy is, black and white, mostly white than black, and he has black spots, around his body, and has a black tail, although there has been thought over buggy, and it is now this: - the white is cream, the black is brown - :who knows?.
He will sit in the kitchen, and when you come in and turn the light on, he will already be there, sat there, looking up at you with an expression that could make anyone feed him, however, he has already had his breakfast, and dinner, and tea, and he's fine!, more than enough, but, would you believe, yes he wants more!, so you try and ignore him, but he keeps looking at you with them eyes that just call out, he's not a very vocal cat, he can get over-excited if someone goes to near the food cup-board, and meow, but he is to himself kinda cat, ha ha, so you in the end, give in, or go to bed, usally go to bed now, we've gotten used to him, but he can be un-grateful too, if you over-fuss him, because he's always purring too, and always very friendly, but if you are so foolish to over excite the brute, he will nip you on the hand, not hard though, he'll give it a nip, as if to say, "why aren't you feeding me?" but he doesn't want to push his luck and bite to leave scars, or blood, because he wants the food ya see.
Thought I'd post, this might be classed as spam, but I do hope it won't be, cause all I wanted to do is let some of the internet know about buggy, as he is the most loved cat in my house, and so would you, if you knew him.
Ha ha.
Megan07
10-06-2007, 09:52 PM
I'd watch carefully about feeding him if I were you. If you keep giving in, soon, he'll be fat. A fat cat is NOT a happy cat. If you feed dry, look at the package, and follow the recommended cups for his weight. If you feed Canned (preferred), follow the amount of cans a day for his weight. That way you're not over or under feeding him. Also, always hungry could be a sign of worms. Was he tested for worms?
He's a stray, found years ago, I think I'd of noticed if he had worms, and he is perfectly happy, and he doesn't show any signs of pain, or dis-comfort, like my other cat does, that has so many illnesses he can not be cured.
But I would of known if Buggy has worms.
He's never been tested, and I don't think he ever will be, as he acts, and looks, fine.
I've stopped feeding him now :) - big diet for that cat, ha ha
TIFFERS
10-07-2007, 06:14 PM
The only types of worms you'll see are tapeworms and roundworms. If you're seeing roundworms...you're in trouble. Tapeworms look like grains of rice, and roundworms are like spaghetti noodles.
Generally, pets with worms show no symptoms until it's almost too late.
I think you should check him for worms at your vet, your other cat as well. Worm infestations can be fatal.
ferJenna
10-07-2007, 08:48 PM
he has already had his breakfast, and dinner, and tea, and he's fine!
Since they covered the worm issue... You feed your cat tea?
Julia423
10-07-2007, 09:35 PM
Since they covered the worm issue... You feed your cat tea?
Rob! may indeed literally fed his cat tea...but tea also refers to a meal. :)
ferJenna
10-07-2007, 09:42 PM
I had no idea... I apparently need to travel more ;)
salukigirl
10-07-2007, 09:47 PM
cats are masters of not showing when theyre diseased. in the wild that could mean being dinner for someone else. so they do not voluntarily show you if theyre hurting. you cant go by how they act to see if theyre okay. the tiny subtle changes are the ones you need to look for.
There are no changes in Buggy, from when we found up until now, nothing, been the same cat all the time, and I would notice if there was something wrong with him, I spend all day with him.
The only things that he has STOPPED doing, is:
Biting.
&
Scratching.
And that's good. lol
TIFFERS
10-08-2007, 08:21 PM
There are no changes in Buggy, from when we found up until now, nothing, been the same cat all the time, and I would notice if there was something wrong with him, I spend all day with him.
...I still think you should at least deworm him, especially since he was a stray. And there are NO symptoms for worms until it's generally too late.
Zoomommy
10-09-2007, 01:49 PM
...I still think you should at least deworm him, especially since he was a stray. And there are NO symptoms for worms until it's generally too late.
I agree...I think of deworming my animals as just another preventative measure for their health. I deworm all my animals at least every six months whether they need it or not, especially new ones or strays.
I think that is over-protective, cats are nature, they don't need us :)
TIFFERS
10-09-2007, 07:06 PM
Fine.
I won't offer you advice when you're going to need it...because, after all...cats don't need us.
nanamouse
10-10-2007, 07:20 PM
I think that is over-protective, cats are nature, they don't need us :)
If he doesn't need you, then why do you feed him? Cats can get intestinal parasites from insect bites, eating insects, and from eating rodents and insects which is how strays survive. A fecal test is one of the least expensive veterinary procedures, and a prescription wormer is cheap and easy to administer. It would be on my concience forever if I let an otherwise healthy cat waste away from something so simple to cure. A cat will generaly not eat unless it is hungry, and if he is hungry that often than something IS wrong, and you are putting him at risk by assuming that a cat has the human tendancy for gluttony.
TIFFERS
10-10-2007, 07:50 PM
If he doesn't need you, then why do you feed him? Cats can get intestinal parasites from insect bites, eating insects, and from eating rodents and insects which is how strays survive. A fecal test is one of the least expensive veterinary procedures, and a prescription wormer is cheap and easy to administer. It would be on my concience forever if I let an otherwise healthy cat waste away from something so simple to cure. A cat will generaly not eat unless it is hungry, and if he is hungry that often than something IS wrong, and you are putting him at risk by assuming that a cat has the human tendancy for gluttony.
Very well said.
Megan07
10-10-2007, 08:40 PM
I think that is over-protective, cats are nature, they don't need us :)
Get off the forum, this forum is for people who love their animals and take care of them.
salukigirl
10-11-2007, 10:08 AM
rob!, why are you even on thie forum if youre not going to listen to any advice? all you have done is ignore very good advice given, asked questions just to say, hes a cat what does it matter, and yelled at people for declawing when we know very well the dangers of it. we dont need people on here asking questions and taking up valuable time and space away from people who genuinely want their pets to get better. if youre not going to listen and youre just going to argue then dont bother asking anymore.
nanamouse
10-11-2007, 10:28 AM
Thanks Tiffers, I was afraid I'd gone too far (until I read a few posts after mine), but that ticked me off. They depend on us, and it's just wrong for a housecat to live as short a life as a feral, it just isn't neccisary!
TIFFERS
10-11-2007, 10:34 AM
Thanks Tiffers, I was afraid I'd gone too far (until I read a few posts after mine), but that ticked me off.
...well, I was more than ticked. For once in my life, I just made one single sentence statement and left it at that. :) I would have gone 'too far', but your's was intelligent and to the point. Nothing bad there.
I do it myself......
He has no risk of any worm infection.
And just to add to this little topic you have started within a topic, he did once have worms, and I got rid of them, and he is putting on weight, which is another indication that he fine too, also, he is about ready for another de-worm, whether he has them or not.
So STOP saying I don't know how to look after my cat!, that has annoyied me some what you going on and on and on about it :mad: my cat is looked after more than I am, or any other person in my family.
TIFFERS
10-11-2007, 01:14 PM
He is always at risk of worm infection.
Putting on weight doesn't mean he's healthy...and why are you just now saying 'he's due for another deworm' when it was 'over-protective' just the other day?
I'm sorry, Rob, but your stories don't match.
salukigirl
10-11-2007, 03:16 PM
everyone is freaking out because you said he can handle himself and doesnt need you to look after him. How is that not supposed to sound like you dont take care of your cat? One second you say your cat doesnt need you, he's fine blah blah now youre saying that you do pay attention to his de-worming and all that. Just like tiffers said, youre not making any sense.
nanamouse
10-11-2007, 05:30 PM
Gee, I just realized we are arguing with a 14 year old boy. If his posts seemed a little immature, that could be the reason. Maybe I should have looked at his profile last night.:o
Rob, we aren't trying to pick on you, but some of us have been raising cats for much longer than you have been living, and have learned a thing or two in the meanwhile. Since all mine have been stray or abandoned cats worms and other parasites have been a big problem in all of them when I first got them. Here in the south, human children still tend to get pin worms playing outside, soanimals can hardly avoid them. If he keeps wanting to eat so much please ask your folks to take him to a vet for an exam to see what kind, if any of worms he has, there are some so small they can only be seen in a microscope. The over the counter wormers have been known to kill cats along with the worms, and the stuff I get from my vet is only $6.00. If it isn't worms it is something, so it's worth getting it checked out. Sorry if I hurt your feelings, I just assumed I was writing to a much older person who should have already known all that.
Megan07
10-11-2007, 05:45 PM
I do it myself......
He has no risk of any worm infection.
And just to add to this little topic you have started within a topic, he did once have worms, and I got rid of them, and he is putting on weight, which is another indication that he fine too, also, he is about ready for another de-worm, whether he has them or not.
So STOP saying I don't know how to look after my cat!, that has annoyied me some what you going on and on and on about it :mad: my cat is looked after more than I am, or any other person in my family.
YOU ARE NOT A VET! You CANNOT see inside of him!! Putting on weight is also a sign of numerous things. If you have ONE ounce of love for this poor animal, TAKE HIM TO A VET and have the VET give you a clean bill of health. You don't know how to look after your cat by saying the stuff you're saying. If you did look after him properly, you wouldn't have said everything you said. I understand you're 14, but the cat needs to see a Vet.
Megan07
10-11-2007, 05:47 PM
Sorry if I hurt your feelings, I just assumed I was writing to a much older person who should have already known all that.
No, no reason to be sorry. If you own an animal, you should know how to take care of it properly. I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but that's MO.
Hey 14 doesn't mean I'm stupid, thanks a lot for the advise, but my mother and me look after him fine, stop snooping into things where you are not wanted, I am so pissed off right now, I could be tempted to un-join this site, because of its un-reasonable members, Megon07, I can look after him fine with my mother, now stop harrasing me!.
Megan07
10-11-2007, 07:13 PM
We are NOT un-reasonable members, Rob. We care about, and love our animals. We don't agree with how you are taking care of your cat, Rob. Noone said you are stupid. We are trying to help you, and you are saying "Cats don't need us", etc.. Please, quote the message from the person who said you are stupid. I don't see one. Unjoin the site, doesn't hurt us any. Just please, get your cat to a Vet and see why he's eating and eating, and then gaining weight. Noone is harrasing you. It's best you unjoin, as you are not being very polite, and are acting like you want advice, and then you don't want advice.
Julia423
10-11-2007, 08:54 PM
Just to add my bit...when I read the original post, I didn't see any kind of question. It seemed to be just a fairly rambling account of the cat with an anecdote about its kitchen behavior. The poster even said he believed that we might see the post as "spam" ...so I ignored it. Sometimes that's what is needed when the writing is adolescent. ;)
salukigirl
10-12-2007, 12:04 AM
i knew he was 14.
megan, no matter what he says, it doesnt give anyone the right to be rude. none of us are moderators and we cant tell him to leave. the point of this site is to educate. the original posts after his first one wasnt the answer to a question it was informing rob! that he might not know that those actions can be a sign of something bigger. no one was trying to attack you or snoop....we were trying to let you know that, yes it can be funny, but it can also be the sign of a serious problem. you were the original one to over-react which just snow balls. you dont have to leave the site, but please know that were not calling you stupid, just un-experienced. we all know how aggravating it is to be 14 and have so much to say but no one to listen to you. were just saying, we have had many pets, been to many vets and have rescued all kinds of animals. so when someone says that they have experience with something you should listen. (especially to special, she knows what shes talking about lol).
but seriously, that can be a problem. any change in behavior. and worming your cat yourself is okay if you get the pill from the vet. the worst thing to see in a pet is eating and drinking without gaining weight. that can mean kidney failure, liver failure, diabetes etc.... so thats why we were trying to express how serious this can be, not because youre 14. there are kids on here younger than you so please dont think its your age. we just want to make sure your pet is taken care of. keep us posted if anything changes or if it turns out there is or isnt something wrong.
Mmmmmm....well, it all very much sounds like you are seeing me out as if I'm stupid, you are making out as if I see something that isn't there, that's not the case, I have met hundreds of people like yourselves, ones that don't know how to see other people as their own age, and that is bad, trust me.
Learn:
I have come across thousands of forums like this, that are just un-friendly to anyone they see fit as 'young enough' or 'different' from the same people all over the world - Stop seeing me as a stupid young prick, who doesn't know how to look after his own cat.
And also, if you are not un-reasonable memebers, then act like reasonable ones.
I am being calm all the way through writing this post, although I am irirated, at what some of you have said, and I do urge you to take that back.
salukigirl seems to be quite senseible though...
Julia423
10-13-2007, 05:53 PM
Mmmmmm....well, it all very much sounds like you are seeing me out as if I'm stupid, you are making out as if I see something that isn't there, that's not the case, I have met hundreds of people like yourselves, ones that don't know how to see other people as their own age, and that is bad, trust me.
Learn:
I have come across thousands of forums like this, that are just un-friendly to anyone they see fit as 'young enough' or 'different' from the same people all over the world - Stop seeing me as a stupid young prick, who doesn't know how to look after his own cat.
And also, if you are not un-reasonable memebers, then act like reasonable ones.
I am being calm all the way through writing this post, although I am irirated, at what some of you have said, and I do urge you to take that back.
salukigirl seems to be quite senseible though...
Rob, the nature of an internet forum is written and that makes it especially important to try to convey who we are with our choice of words. I believe that if you'd like to be viewed as the mature person that you say that you are, that you must pay attention to the tone of your writing. We rely on each others written words to convey personality and meaning.
Good luck and be well.
TIFFERS
10-13-2007, 08:49 PM
I believe that if you'd like to be viewed as the mature person that you say that you are, that you must pay attention to the tone of your writing.
I very much agree. And it's not that you are 'too young' or 'not smart enough' it's the comment you made about 'cats not needing us'. It has nothing to do with your age or your intelligence...it's the comment you made.
nanamouse
10-14-2007, 12:02 PM
Rob, I was not trying to suggest that because you were 14 you were stupid, simply inexperienced, and we are ALL (hopefully) still learning every day. I know more now than I did at 14, only because I have lived through more situations than I had at 14, not because I was stupid then and am smart now.
It seems like this thread has gotten kind of out of hand, and away from the original subject.
How about we just assume for now that Bugsy has a very large appetite, but include his large appetite as a possible symptom if the time comes that he starts to have problems?
It seems like this thread has gotten kind of out of hand, and away from the original subject.
Tell me about it.....
Rob, I was not trying to suggest that because you were 14 you were stupid
So if not the age, why do you all keep saying 'its not about the age', blah blah blah, I can see you people sat in front of me, you know I'd love to meet you lot, you are so funny, you are actrully seeing me in a completly different light! lol - That's WRONG! - ha ha ~ anyways, I'm reeli not bothered, lets just shake hands, and be nice, I hate debating:
Maybe you did have a point, but there were some points that were a little off hand, but it doesn't matter - - - - - - friends?
(reconsider?) ~ :confused:
salukigirl
10-14-2007, 06:06 PM
Rob, the nature of an internet forum is written and that makes it especially important to try to convey who we are with our choice of words. I believe that if you'd like to be viewed as the mature person that you say that you are, that you must pay attention to the tone of your writing. We rely on each others written words to convey personality and meaning.
Good luck and be well.
i agree with this. if you want us to view you as an adult then you need to use adult sentences and not say stuff like "reeli" etc... you cant blow up on people and act 14 if you want us to treat you like an adult.
WTF ? whoooa!, how dare someone tell me what I can and can't say!?, I aurge you to take that back!, if I want to say 'reeli', I will!, I can not believe you just said that, that's the ultimate crime, telling someone what to do, its as bad as 1984 by George Owell in here!
krazy4birds
10-15-2007, 01:32 PM
Apparently this thread has gotten out of hand so I am closing it. I think there was a lot said here that was not necassary and should be thought over very carefully by all involved!