No Kill Shelters - dogs/cats

[Doggies4Ever]

A no-kill animal shelter, what is really going on with this place of dogs/cats that over crowded, lack off food/water/attention/right caging/room?! You be the judge of it, what your thoughts and views. What should be done? Does anyone live around or in that area who can check if that's just happening? Poor animals.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu-uplX6fNI


I know that taking in alot of unwanted pets so they dont die or get sent away could be very understandable, or at least I am guessing thats what happens to these places, because they sure dont make the room/etc these poor dogs even cats need in there place of saving them or whats there real reason, I like to think its the one I am thinking of.

[Doggies4Ever]

1-800-254-7297 All Creatures Great & Small (Pasadena CA)
should call them, its toll free. Tell them to stop, see if its still going on!!


No kill shelter, but are what they doing any good??


A shelter called ACGS = All Creatures Great & Small Shelter. Has a shamful horrorable serect.
Lets find out what it is together. Please view. Like to hear from you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq54oY7Q608 - part one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsttUUhUJWE - part two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGP0MQTwKV8 - part three

[TIFFERS]

No-Kill Shelters are only No-Kill to a certain extent. For instance, you bring in an animal that is beat up, extremely mal-nourished, or diseased, I'm sorry but it's out of there.

And some owners, for instance these guys are trying to help too much. We see people all the time that think they're helping by picking up every animal they find, when really it's putting them in more danger. Their homes are overcrowded, nothing's vaccinated, half of them are dying. It's just life...I feel bad for those animals and what they are going through, but it's unfortunate for them, because they depend on that person, or those people, for food, water, etc.

[katiem]

I personally feel that no kill shelters are a problem, not a solution. Often animals who live in no kills are there for their entire lives due to the fact that they are often unadoptable because of health and temperament issues. While every animal may deserve a life, I think it's rediculous to warehouse these animals and fill up shelters, while other adoptable animals die due to overcrowding in pounds and kill shelters.
Also some no kills adopt out animals that are not temperamentally sound under the view that all animals deserve a home. Well I'm sorry but most people either do not want or can not handle unsound animals, meaning the animal will either end up in a pound elsewhere, dumped, or hurting a person.

[Jennicat]

I personally feel that no kill shelters are a problem, not a solution. Often animals who live in no kills are there for their entire lives due to the fact that they are often unadoptable because of health and temperament issues. While every animal may deserve a life, I think it's rediculous to warehouse these animals and fill up shelters, while other adoptable animals die due to overcrowding in pounds and kill shelters.
Also some no kills adopt out animals that are not temperamentally sound under the view that all animals deserve a home. Well I'm sorry but most people either do not want or can not handle unsound animals, meaning the animal will either end up in a pound elsewhere, dumped, or hurting a person.


I find your experience interesting, and not at all in line with what I've experienced working with no-kill rescues and shelters in this area.

[astarte36]

I haven't watched the videos yet but I don't think it is humane to have an animal caged up its entire life, its sad. Face it, all of these animals can't be adopted and not just adopted but adopted into a loving home. People are cruel, there is nothing that will make me lose respect for someone faster than to find that they have abused a helpless human or animal and people do it all the time. I had someone tell me the other day that as a child they used to kick cats across the yard to see how far they could kick them, and they still don't realize that that was wrong, how sick are people? I've seen and heard some very bad things from people that you would never suspect. I really don't know what the solution is, but in my opinion, it is better to humanely euthanize than to let the animal's quality of life suffer or to live on the streets in fear of humans or other animals. I think they give them a shot and they go peacefully, is it better that they go that way or be abused? I would rather that they all found truly loving homes but that is just not a reality, I do not want them abused or to starve to death or to die of some disease in the gutter, that is the only way I can see it. Then you have some people saying, oh, I would rather let them run free or live in the wild, whatever, I have seen boys swinging pups by the tails into poles, I saw this as a child and I can never forget it to this day. People are the cruelest animals, especially kids. We cannot save every animal out there and we cannot have them all scrunched up into no kill shelters, there are just too many. I don't like the idea of euthanasia either but you can only think that it is better to go quickly with as little pain as possible than to suffer.

[wolfrunner]

Let's see now why don't we just give a shot and put all the people to sleep that suffer from disease or all the unwanted kids in orphanages. We could eliminate whole generations in some countries. Those animals do find loving homes!!!!! Maybe it might take a few weeks or even months but they are cared for and loved. Not only that prospective people are screened and the animals that go to homes are truely wanted. These animals are also socialized and most of the time housebroken, leash trained, etc. I personally rescued from a pound they called a humane society. It was truely a joke the fleas were so bad. The animal had a medical condition that they didn't even know about yet I saw it right off. The condition is panus... She will be with me until the day she crosses over and then I will go out and find another poor soul to rescue. I also rescue wolfhybrids or I would find more needy dogs. I really believe you have a negative outlook...try picking on the puppy mills that is where animals are enclosed in their own feces bred season after season and alot of them are inbred if you are truely concerned.

[astarte36]

Well, whatever, but u r nuts if u don't think animals are abused or starve to death on the streets, face, not all animals end up in someone's loving arms, just facts, get over it and face the truth.

[Jackiewalt]

I've taken 5 pets into the aspca & they killed them all. I am in Buffalo, NY, where can I go to a no kill shelter? My last kitty had kidney problems during the poisoned food episode.

[TIFFERS]

The way I see it, there are starving and unloved humans just as there are animals on the streets. Sure, shelters kill. Veterinarians kill. Humans kill. It's life. However, I'm firmly convinced that even taking the animal in to a shelter and at least giving it one last good night's rest in the heat/a-c and one good meal, definately beats a lifetime on the streets.

I also believe that everything is a business, these days. The corporate offices for shelters, vets, hospitals, churches, etc. It's all about money. It's much cheaper to "dispose" of your stock, rather than feed and house it for weeks. It's a definate shame, but that's what this world is coming to. And we, as humans, have made it that way.

[katiem]

I find your experience interesting, and not at all in line with what I've experienced working with no-kill rescues and shelters in this area.
Are you talking about low-kill, or full on no-kill where even the most unadoptable animal is kept alive? The shelter I worked for was low-kill, and yes we could place some difficult adoptions, we had a Rotti for over 2 years once! That being said we would not let an animal who had caused severe damage to a person or another animal back out into the world. They would be cared for until the quarantine was up, and then euthanized.
I've also noticed that a lot of no-kill shelters take in animals from other shelters who have passed temperament evaluations, eliminating the need to euthanize because in a way they get to pick and choose who they want to adopt out, I'm certainly not saying that every no-kill is like that, but it's something I've seen. Examples of these are Heart Bandits American Eskimo Rescue, or Ann and Pete's Foster Care for Animal Alliance/Project Jessie. Also I do commend these rescues for helping place animals in homes and all the good work that they do, but they are private rescues who can do what they want.

[DachshundDuo]

http://www.petfinder.com/shelters/WV39.html

This is the link to the Mason County Animal Shelter in Point Pleasant, WV. They desperately need help from rescues or for people to adopt their dogs. They have more than 300 dogs that are living in cramped quarters. The county has told them to get the population down to 51 or they will have to euthanize.

Like you said, poor dogs.:(