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girlsmum
04-15-2006, 02:03 AM
I am so afraid that I am going to have to re-home my puppy or have her euthanized because of her aggression issues. I have read everything that I can on the subject of aggression, on her breed (blue heeler mix), and have tried several different methods to deal with this. Problem is, I'm afraid of her because she has taken to biting at me and she's a good sized dog (about 70 - 75 pounds). I know that she senses my fear, but I don't know how NOT to be afraid of such an unpredictable dog.

I am so upset right now because I am getting all emotional about not being able to help her relax so that she doesn't have to guard everything. She has not begun to "guard" me from my 9 year old border collie/malamute mix. My 9 year old has a very submissive and sweet nature and has NEVER challenged me, and certainly does not challenge the puppy who tends to be very aggressive and dominant. Now I feel like the puppy is running the house and making it unsafe and uncomfortable for me and my other dog who have lived together peacefully and happily for 9 years now.

I had the puppy spayed, up to date on all vaccinations, exercises daily (playing fetch, walks, and running around yard), was free feeding but then food aggression started so stopped that, and always has access to clean fresh water and lots of toys. I just don't know what else to do. I'm trying to socialize her but she is just so aggressive (almost fearful at times) that I'm afraid that she will bite someone or another animal. She challenges me at every turn and has begun to torment my older dog with her aggressiveness. She has begun to attack my older dog and "bully" her and it makes me sad because my older dog now refuses to "challenge" the puppy by coming to me for any kind of attention. I feel like my older dog has been pushed to the wayside and I feel badly for her because she is very close with me and I can tell she is not as happy as she used to be.

I've also enrolled the puppy into obedience school but we've only had one session so far. She did fairly well, although she did show aggression towards other dogs and towards some people while there. I have put a lot of energy and love (and even money) into this puppy and I hate to give up, but I've had her for five months now and she just seems to be getting worse. And all the while she is getting bigger and stronger and harder to handle. I'm afraid that she will attack me if I make her angry and I just don't want to live like this.

She was an abandoned puppy and I have no idea what kind of toils she went through during the first few months of her life, but I just cannot live afraid in my own home and afraid for other's safety. I am trying to decide if I should even try to re-home her (I really do think that I've done a good job at training and that the problem is not with me, I could be wrong, but I truly believe that it is an issue with her, not trainer) or have her euthanized. I want to cry when I think about having her euthanized because she can be a very sweet puppy and we do cuddle and love on each other at times (when she allows it).

This is just such a different experience than I've ever had with any of my dogs that I feel like something is "wrong" with this puppy that is way beyond my ability to correct.

Any ideas on what I can do? I'm now afraid to even have her near my older dog for fear of a fight between them and I hate to kennel her constantly, put her in the yard by herself, or tie her up somewhere to avoid any altercations. I'm afraid for her and afraid for us.

Girlsmum

alicat620
04-15-2006, 02:28 AM
Girlsmum: I feel for you. I have had (AND IT'S NO COMPARISON BY ANY MEANS!!) two feral cats in my life that came at a later age and were hard to handle - but with too much love, understanding, patience and TIME - they are calm lap cats now! (one took a year) However - a 10 pound cat is easily controlled if unruly!! unlike a 70 pound dog!!

It seems you have done everything accordingly, my own preference is time and it takes much - but in your case, given your other pet and your fearfulness which is completely understood with a large aggressive pet, I do not know what to say. The obedience school was first that I thought of and of course you have started that ... there are others on here, I KNOW, that can give you excellent advice ... please be patient for a day or two and listen.

I have three dogs, two of which - a black lab and a foxhound - females that where both abandoned and about 5 months of age when I got them, but sweet and loving from day one, and they still are. Like I said ... I feel for you and wish you so much for getting this as it should be. :)

craigminah
04-15-2006, 10:24 AM
Could you try to reassert your dominance upon your dog? I've seen this on TV and my wife and I have done it (rarely) but my dog is submissive towards us (probably too submissive, really). When our dog gets out of line (e.g. too aggressive playing) we get in her face, or neck area, and growl at her. She perks up then almost always rolls over and relaxes.

John Olexa
04-15-2006, 04:31 PM
[QUOTE=craigminah] we get in her face, or neck area, and growl at her /QUOTE]

But boy, if that backfires...... yikes

My dog is animal aggressive loves people, kids but hates anything with 4 or more legs. my guess is it's from when she was a puppy. Shes a rescue.

Would sure hate to see her euthanized!!! Maybe a single animal home would help.

Squawksx3
04-15-2006, 05:00 PM
Try calling rescues.. many will take aggressive dogs in and work with them. You could also try a professional trainer (not Petsmart, etc...)... one who is independent. If you fear her, she is picking up on it and the situation will not get better. Im so sorry and wish the best for both you and her.

girlsmum
04-15-2006, 10:24 PM
Yes, I looked up rescues, but I really just want to cry when I think about re-homing her. I'm just afraid that it would be too traumatic on her because she really is bonded with me and my older dog.

We went to her second class today and she did MUCH better than she had last time. She was much less scared, and only showed aggression a couple of times towards other dogs and people. She even actually approached a couple of people who were sitting and checked them out, which is unusual for her. I really hope that most of this issue is simply lack of socialization and teaching her that people are good and aren't going to hurt her.

I got the number for a dog behaviorist and left him a message today. Hopefully I will hear back from him early next week. I still have a couple of things to try, but when she acts aggressively towards me and my other dog I get so worried for her. The good thing is, she doesn't just "snap" at people or other dogs, she gives PLENTY of warning, which seems to mean that it might just be fear and eventually she might be able to overcome that. I am also considering giving her an anti-anxiety medication to calm her down a little as she seems to get really anxious in new situations.

Thanks for all of the replies and I also hope that she and I can work this whole thing out. I don't want to give up on her, but I think that re-homing her would be far too hard on her as I seem to be the ONLY person that she trusts.

I do not want to "challenge" her by being aggressive back towards her as I feel that might make her fear worse. I have been trying to be a "calm quiet alpha" and proving to her that I can, indeed, protect myself and my pack.

We'll see what happens, I won't make any rash decisions at this point. I will finish the classes (8 more weeks) and try the behaviorist and maybe even the anti-anxiety medication before I even consider euthenasia... well, unless she bites me or someone else or causes serious harm to my older dog. I'll keep my fingers crossed that she keeps warning us and that doesn't happen.

Girlsmum

fzzymom
04-16-2006, 12:12 AM
So sorry to hear that you are facing such a challenge. You need to speak to that behavioralist and investigate retraining asap. The puppy is obviously not seeing you as the alpha leader, and that is dangerous. I am really concerned for you and your other dog. :(

Has your vet done a blood work-up, maybe she has some kind of chemical imbalance? Doggie bi-polar disorder!?!

I know you love this dog, and these things really do take time, but you must seriously consider your own safety.

We are here for you.

Courtney

alicat620
04-19-2006, 01:39 AM
Time, Time, Time

kwitty
04-19-2006, 10:07 AM
Please give her some time with the classes. It sounds like she is improving. It would be terrible to have her euthanized. Please keep us updated.