U.S. List of Banned Breeds

[rileystar04]

This was copied from an email I got from a Pit Bull email ring I'm signed up for...
if you want to join-
denverbreedban@yahoogroups.com
or ThePitBullBand@aol.com


This is the list of verified breeds we found in the United States
affected by bans or restricted in some way. If you have verifiable
information on any other breeds affected, please let us know.


Leisa & Judy



Dogs currently affected by BSL in the United States

This list is specifically named in ordinances

American Pit Bull Terrier
American Staffordshire Terrier
Staffordshire Bull Terrier
Bull Terrier (Monticello, Centerville, Alburnett & Hiawatha Iowa)
(Grandview MO) (N Little Rock, AR) (KY & WA)
Akita (Ulyssas, KS)
Alaskan Malamutes (Fairfield, IA)
American Bull Dog (North Little Rock, AR) (Aurora CO.)(Akron OH)
Belgian Malanois (Fairfield, IA)
Boerboels (Fairfield, IA)
Cane Corso (Aurora CO)
Chow Chow (Travelers Rest, SC), (Newport, RI) (Lynnville, TN)
Doberman Pincher (Fairfield, IA) (Sisston, SD), (Westfield, IL),
(Travelers Rest, SC) (Lynnville, TN) (Buffalo Center, IA)
Dogo Argentino (Aurora CO)
English Mastiffs, (Yale, IA)
Fila Brasileiro (also known as the Fila, Brazilian Mastiff) (Aurora
CO)
German Shepard (Fairfield, IA) (Lynnville, TN)
Great Danes (Fairfield, IA)
Irish Wolf Hounds (Fairfield, IA)
Mastiffs (Fairfield, IA)
Malamutes (Fairfield, IA)
Presa Mallorquin (also known as the Ca De Bou) (Aurora, CO)
Presa Canario (Lanett, AL) (Aurora CO)
Rottweiler (North Little Rock AR) (Buffalo Grove, ILL) (Fairfield,
Conrad, Lake Mills & Lockridge IA) (Walkerton, IN) (Inman, KS) (Carl
Junction & Salisbury MO) (Binghamton, NY) (Velva, ND)(Pawtuckett, RI)
(Travelers Rest, SC)(Lynnville, TN)(Smithville, UT)(Neah Bay, WA)
(Buffalo Center, IA)
Scottish Deerhounds (Fairfield, IA)
Shar Pei's (Smithfield, UT)
Siberian Huskies (Fairfield, IA)
Tosa Inu (Aurora CO)


NOTE These are breeds that are typically over 100 lbs according to
UKC & AKC Standards. If your dog is over 100lbs in Fairfield, Iowa it
is considered a restricted breed.



1. Akbash

2. Anatolian Shepherd

3. Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog

4. Borzoi

5. Bull Masiff

6. Dogue De Bordeauxs

7. Estrela Mountain Dog

8. Great Pyrenees

9. Italian Mastiff

10. Komondor

11. Kangal Dog

12. Kuvaz

13. Leonberger

14. Neopolitian Mastiff

15. New Foundland

16. Otterhound

17. St. Bernard

18. Spanish Mastiff

[blueberrybun]

Wow. How could you ban a Newfie?? Or a St Bernard? Or a Great Dane??? Those are 3 of the sweetest dogs ever!! :mad:

[rileystar04]

When I saw St Bernard I just thought "morons". They are all sweet breeds if you ask me. And although I've never had a good experience with a chow I'll never say to ban them.

[Riosmommy]

I agree Saint Bernards? My brother has one named Meadow she is the sweetest thing and great with the kids and baby and the other dogs, turtle and birds. I know alot of people I would like to bann..
So sad seeing this.
RIo&Nicksymommy

[rileystar04]

And you know what sucks? Alot of you guys are PETA supporters here and Ingrid supports banning pit bulls because "if there are none we can't abuse them". :mad: Maybe that's the one group that needs to do the right thing for these dogs, they could really use the support, and I don't mean killing them off.

https://www.indybay.org/news/2005/06/1746347.php

[blueberrybun]

I am not a PETA supporter. I agree with some things that they do but then think alot are extreme. Then again I have not studied up on them much. I just never have talked about my stance on them. I don't think it is necessary bc it will only cause a big debate. And please, if anybody is offended I apologize but that is just my opinion.

[rileystar04]

I say it only because I know so many here support PETA, and so many here DO NOT support breed bans. Maybe someone needs to speak up or do something, because such a powerful group supporting such a disgusting cause is a scary thing. And no I'm not trying to bash them here or start an argument.

[blueberrybun]

Well, I think that most people that support PETA do not necessarily agree with everything they do. Even John has stated before that he does not stand by every single thing that PETA does. You can only support them to a certain extent. Does that make sense?

[Magnum]

I don't see where Fairfield, IA has banned any breed in their city ordinances. Here is the link to their ordinance on keeping of "dangerous animals".

http://cityoffairfieldiowa.com/Public/TheCity/CityHall/Ordinances/index.cfm

I see it as holding the pet owner responsible for owning such breeds, which needs to be done. I share my life with a Dobe, and would have no problem living in Fairfield with him. He would not be banned, but I would have to post a sign, if he was an "Attack dog, by training made vicious in response to stimuli or command", which he isn't, but I would still post it. All dogs have to be on a leash in public. That is how I see their law. Isn't that what we are fighting for? Stop banning and start holding the owners responsible?

[LadyPirate]

I think all pet owners should be responsible whether their dog weighs in at 3 lbs or 300 lbs! We never let our dog out without being on a leash, unless it is in our back yard. The neighbors to one side of us have chihuahuas and they never leave their fenced in yard. On the other side though, it's a whole other story. They have a dog like an Akita that stays chained all the time. They do feed it apparently. He's really mean. They also have various dogs that wonder the street. These are not big dogs at all. One is Maltipoo, one is chihuahua, and the youngest one is a mini dach. The chihuahua came into OUR front yard where we had OUR dog on a leash and tried to attack her. Lucy is much bigger than that dog, but she does not have a fighting personality. Only my yelling at the dog, and stomping my feet like I was going to stomp him, caused him to back off. I finally did get him back into his own yard. This same family had another dog a couple years ago that came running into the yard and was going to attack my granddaughter. The owner was working on his car, doing nothing about the dog. I said, definitely loud enough for the guy to hear, *if you bite this child, I guarantee it will be the last thing on this earth you bite*. He finally called the dog back over. About a week later, my daughter in law came home from work and the dog grabbed her pants leg. She called them and told them they needed to keep that dog up before something bad happened, and she wasn't meaning that she was going to do anything to the dog. Her meaning was that they needed to keep the dog up because it was obviously very mean and was going to end up biting somebody. They did something with the dog. I don't know what, but it isn't here anymore. Granted, these are small dogs, but they are not under control. In my opinion, if you are going to have a dog, you need to control that dog no matter what size it is. Small dogs can be viscious too.

Robyn

[JustJo]

Well said Robyn. In 2000 an infant was killed by the family Pomeranian. There have been documented fatal dog attacks by dachshunds, westies, and even a yorkie.

As far as St. Bernards...they have the same record as Great Danes. From 1979 to 2001 both breeds have been responsible for 7 deaths each. No where have I ever seen any death attributed to an Irish Wolfhound. To restrict breeds because of size alone is just stupid. As far as restraining, I believe in leash laws and think they are the best thing for the dog's safety, and that ALL breeds regardless of size should be restrained by a leash when out in public, except for designated dog parks, etc. If you want to have your dog loose in your yard then put up a fence. I see nothing wrong with those two restraint laws, they are just common sense.

[rileystar04]

I definatly agree. People are for some reason, afraid of big dogs. Mine is only 73lbs and some people are terrified of him, which pisses me off. (I say only because I do not consider that a large dog).

One time we were walking and this lady was terrified of him, wouldn't go near him, but she went right up to this little dog, a Chi, and pet him (without asking owner) and it bit her hands.

[John Olexa]

I have been bit far more often by little dogs, then big dogs.Come to think of it I have never been bit by a big dog LOL.That banned list is insane.

NO, I don't support a ban list of any kind, for any breed.

[jojoalexis]

I was bit by an Aus sheppherd, they are not on the list ;) it all comes down to 0wners and the lack of effort on our government and Department of Agriculture. Bad breders are not "controlled" or even monitored. Sounds like we have a lot of work to do!

[John Olexa]

Just looked at 2 bumpers stickers, 1 says "Ban Stupid People, not Pit Bulls"
the other says " Ban Ignorance... Not Pit Bulls"

[SDBelle]

It's true that small dogs are much more likely to bite (given their size, that's their only defense if they feel they are in danger). People aren't afraid of them though. One of our local radio stations did a trivia thing one morning asking what breed of dog in the US is the most likely to bite. They got tons and tons of calls with people saying Pit Bulls, Chows, Rotweilers, etc. All the usual ones with bad reputations. But you know what the answer is? Cocker Spaniels are the most likely to bite! Now maybe a Cocker can't do as much damage as a Rotweiler if it bites, but still. People just need to control their dogs.

I have a Cocker who weighs 13 pounds and a Boxer who weighs almost 80 pounds. When I go walking in public, people (especially kids) come running up and want to pet my Cocker because she's so little and cute. People are terrified of my Boxer. Adults pull their kids away from him when I walk by. But I would trust him with anyone, even my own baby. My Cocker is the one I worry about because she has snapped at kids before. I have to tell people to stay away from her, but go ahead and pet the Boxer all they want. I think it's stupid to ban any breed. They just need to impose harsher punishments on those people who own dogs that they know are dangerous and don't control them.

[JustJo]

It's true that small dogs are much more likely to bite (given their size, that's their only defense if they feel they are in danger). People aren't afraid of them though. One of our local radio stations did a trivia thing one morning asking what breed of dog in the US is the most likely to bite. They got tons and tons of calls with people saying Pit Bulls, Chows, Rotweilers, etc. All the usual ones with bad reputations. But you know what the answer is? Cocker Spaniels are the most likely to bite! Now maybe a Cocker can't do as much damage as a Rotweiler if it bites, but still. People just need to control their dogs.

I have a Cocker who weighs 13 pounds and a Boxer who weighs almost 80 pounds. When I go walking in public, people (especially kids) come running up and want to pet my Cocker because she's so little and cute. People are terrified of my Boxer. Adults pull their kids away from him when I walk by. But I would trust him with anyone, even my own baby. My Cocker is the one I worry about because she has snapped at kids before. I have to tell people to stay away from her, but go ahead and pet the Boxer all they want. I think it's stupid to ban any breed. They just need to impose harsher punishments on those people who own dogs that they know are dangerous and don't control them.

This is so true SDBelle. I would trust Bullwinkle to the max as far as any aggressive behavior. It is Rockie that I do not trust, mainly because I do not really know her completely as yet. I do know she is distrustful of strangers and she is always on high alert. The really crazy thing is that I have not seen children shy away from Bullwinkle even though he towers over them. Children are the first ones that gravitate towards him. I think that may say a lot. They may pick up on his aura that he loves them. I don't know...all I know is that all I ever have to warn them about is his tail.

[SDBelle]

This is so true SDBelle. I would trust Bullwinkle to the max as far as any aggressive behavior. It is Rockie that I do not trust, mainly because I do not really know her completely as yet. I do know she is distrustful of strangers and she is always on high alert. The really crazy thing is that I have not seen children shy away from Bullwinkle even though he towers over them. Children are the first ones that gravitate towards him. I think that may say a lot. They may pick up on his aura that he loves them. I don't know...all I know is that all I ever have to warn them about is his tail.

Jo,

That's so true about Great Dane tails. :D I had a wonderful Great Dane when I was a kid, and he was the nicest, sweetest dog ever. My mom had to put all the breakables in the house up above his tail level because he would walk through the house wagging his tail and literally knock things off shelves.

My Boxer's name is Romeo, and he is just that - a big lover. He loves kids, cats, even my Chihuahuas, lol. Kids love him, even though most adults are afraid of him. He wouldn't hurt a fly. :)

[Squawksx3]

I dont know how many members here are Peta supporters.... but because John is our dear friend...we admire and like him very much..... does that make us Peta supporters?. I do agree people need to be the voice for the voiceless and help better the lives of animals all over this world. ;)

Breed banning is the most rediculous idea from humans yet. Wouldnt it be nice to ban people from this world!.

[amstaff]

shannon, i could not believe your post. i was thinking, me too when you were posting about the cocker thing. i had a rotti and a cocker at the same time. ruger, my cocker was 7ish when we found him and boy was he vicious! i could only walk him with my rotti so i could be sure people would not come right up to him. but, if it was just kids, they would come up anyway.

also, my rotti's name was romeo!

[Joan_of_Ark]

I LOVE so many dogs that are on that list. Why ban a dog that is misunderstood, than one that is plain evil just because one's bigger than the other?!?!:confused: It makes me so mad!!!:mad:

By the way, what about the dogs on the top of the list? The American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, and the Staffordshire Bull Terrier? Are they banned from the world? Or not banned at all?

My story: When I was real little we had an American Bulldog. His name was Spike. He died 3 years ago. He was the SWEETEST THING IN THE WORLD!!! We have on video me and Spike playing together, and I would almost torture him, (don't blame me I was 2 years old) and all he would do was just sit there and look at my mom like "please make her stop:( ". Then when I would play tug-a-war with him, he would gently pull and then walk towards me so I 'd think I was winning, then he'd gently pull again. Then as I got older he would pull harder and walk less, untill I could barely get it from him.

So I DEFINITLY agree with who ever put "BAN STUPID OWNERS! NOT PIT BULLS!" I'm in a dog group where my teacher is exactly the same. The only t-shirts she ever wears is ones supporting dogs. i.e. "Cigarettes kill 440,000 people every year. Car accidents kill 1.2 million people every year. Dogs kill 2 people every year. Which one do you think we should ban?" That's my personal favorite.

[PatchO'Pits]

The things that should be banned are:

Ignorant people in public offices

Irresponsible owners

Irresponsible breeders


NOT any breeds

[conure_chick]

I hate people who want to ban any dog breed. I sya jsut ban the bad pet owners and breeders instead of the dogs. I have a german shepherd, which I ahvve seen on a couple of ban lists on the internet and people are afraid of her. They pull kids away and I think to myself, she doesn't look vicious. She wouldn't hurt anbody..maybe a squirrel but never people. It kinda hurts because I want to share her with everyone but no one wants to be near her. it makes me sad for her because she loves people...she probably think why is everyone walking away? Don't they love me? then I jsut feel angry at people who don't think!

[epetlovers]

This breaks my heart. I rescued a pittbull out of the shelter and cared for him. He was the sweetest dog.......

[tiffers]

It's hardly ever the dog's fault...it's due to crappy owners, just like criminals...it's due to crappy parenting.

[Amy2006]

I agree with everyone but i must add that we shouldn't take offense by people who pull their children away because people don't know the dogs. And dogs can and do bite. I would probably pull my child away if i didn't know how the dog was raised. We all agree its the owners fault and not the dog but do we know which owner is bad and which is not? So, although it may hurt your feelings i hope you try to understand the parent of the child or even the adult that backs off. I would back off until i at least asked if the dog was friendly and if i could pet him/her. And even then some pet owners. . . .may tell you one thing but don't necessarily make it true.

Plus, i think one issue is not knowing the "body language" of a dog. if people knew what to look for behavior wise (stance, ear pointing, stare, etc) it would help them to determine if the dog was indeed friendly. Maybe we should promote that more so the uninformed would know what to look for.

I really liked this one from Joan_of_Ark: "Cigarettes kill 440,000 people every year. Car accidents kill 1.2 million people every year. Dogs kill 2 people every year. Which one do you think we should ban?"

Amy

[tiffers]

I agree with everyone but i must add that we shouldn't take offense by people who pull their children away because people don't know the dogs.

I agree 100%. People don't know your dog, especially if your dog's breed has a reputation. You can't get offended by that. If you are, then why'd you get the breed?! I'm not trying to start an argument, but pet owners need to take responsibilty and what not. Like, in the pet stores, so many owners do NOT pay attention to their animals. If your pet, like mine, is aggressive with Children, you need to keep that animal in check. Children don't know better. They don't know that dogs can bite or be mean.

When I worked at PetsMart, there was a huge dog fight, which indeed in a death. There was this young couple who had a schnauzer. The thing was growling and barking at everything. They completly ignored him. This older man went down the aisle with his little maltese thing, they were quiet and calm. Out of nowhere, the schnauzer took off after the maltese. Thus ripping the leash out of the schnauzer's owners hands and getting away quickly. He tore into that maltese. Blood, fur, everywhere. The maltese was rushed to the vet hospital there in PetsMart, but was dead before anything could be done. I strongly believe this could have been prevented.

However, I also believe that breed banning is ridiculous as I said earlier. You know, in the 80's it was the Dobie's that were the "aggressive" breed, in the 90's it was the Rottie's. And now, it's the Pitts. What's next? Aggressive Shih Tzus and Chihuahuas?!?! It'll blow over and there will always be morons trying to become breed experts who don't know anything about the breed in the first place.

[Tigs-rific]

I too agree that banning a breed is rediculous because it is always targeted at a specific type or sized breed. Are there ever little dogs banned...??????????

I do want to add something else that is a little different that what most people on here are typing. Not all dogs that bite someone have crappy owners, nor do all criminals have crappy parents. I have known of dogs that were always around people and were very loved to just sort of snap. I had a rottie bite me on my upper leg and leave a scar. This dog was very loved and attended to by my boyfriend at the time and was always around me. One day though it just bit me then walked away with me bleeding and hurting. It then started to do that to other people as well. Could not ever be explained. But I did not accuse the breed or the owner. The girl was an old pup and I think sometimes a dog just goes through something (even as simple as aging) and changes their temperment. Just like some people grow up in good homes, with good parents, but one day their mind falters. Any person or animal can have something like that happen. My friend has a blue pitt who was a loving family pet, never slept a day outdoors. Then gradually it started getting violent and attacking even it's owners. For the safety of their child, the pup was put in their backyard and they are still trying to figure out what's going on. Again, I do not blame the breed or owner. I just think dogs can have mental issues and develop mental issues the same as people can. These people love their dog and are doing everything they can because they do not want to lose their beloved pet. But I think they are also starting to realize they're running out of options.

When things like this happen, it becomes the owners responsibilty to keep their pet in a safe place to prevent injury to a person or to the pet itself. None-the-less, when i was bit, it was the first time that she ever bit anyone and it progressed from there.

In the very few case that something like this happens, it is very sad because the owners and the breeds are always the ones to be blamed.

As for the crappy owners... not enough people report them and there are a lot of areas that do not inforce good ownership, like where I live. They won't do anything but give you a ten dollar fine for having a pet of leash. No one cares if a pet runs loose, and if someone is bitten, the pet is put in quarentine for a couple weeks then released to the owner. It really is sad. We do not though, have any bans at all. It's people who should be banned from owning pets, not pets being banned!

Thanks for letting me write all that!

[Tigs-rific]

Aggressive Shih Tzus and Chihuahuas?!?!

I've seen lots of aggressive chihuahuas. It's almost cute but lost little boogers can be mean. Could you imagine them banning them??? :)

[conure_chick]

I know that people should be "wary" of an unknown dog for safety, and children too but how about the "Cute dog" saying. Or a friendly smile? They look at me with this face..and I feel so hated. I guess it doesn't matter, I do what I can to show how great she is and if people don't want to listen fine. But they don't know what they are missing. I take responsibility of course but breed repuatations are so stupid. Dog temperments vary, and every dog is different. It's just very frustrating....

[Hunter99]

I have a boxer/pitbull named cinnamon eventhough she has only 15%pitbull in her you can really tell when you look at her jaw her jaw is about 8 inches wide and everyone is scared of her:confused: here is her picture people say I should put a muzzle on her when I walk I said no til I got stopped by a police officer now I can't walk her anymore until I get a muzzle any idea of where I can buy a muzzle??? well I heard boxers are on the bsl list that is just bull:mad:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m257/ashley_luvs_jamie/sillydogpictures029.jpg

[Husky06]

how do u ban a husky or a malamute, are they not known for their people friendliness? Or any of those other dogs for that matter, some people are "stoooopid"

[SP1959]

I am writing to you with the hope that you shall support a petition targeted at PETA. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/867549600



Whether you rescue, spaniels, working dogs, herding dogs, sight hounds, guardian breeds, toy breeds matters nought, what does matter is that you have a breed of choice that you are rescuing, rehabilitating and attempting to find that perfect loving home for, the goal of every good rescue. You all will have had cases of abuse, neglect, and isolation of your breed of choice. The key word here is “choice”. PETA is attempting to eradicate the American Pit Bull Terrier. Breed Specific Legislation is not the answer to a tragedy that is present all over the United States and worldwide with this Breed referred to as a Pit Bull. If PETA has it their way there will be no Pit Bulls left on the planet. Then they will have to go after the next choice of breed that the gangsters, hooligans and low element of humanity select for their fighting, and breeding for profit. As you can well imagine there are any number of breeds that have been and are being used to fight, among them in the past was the Parsons Terrier, commonly referred to as the Jack Russel, the Manchester Terrier, the Boston Terrier, the Bedlington Terrier, all of which are now popular house companions. Where will this end?



The laws or lack there of must be addressed with the humans that are responsible for the criminilazation of this breed and other breeds that are being used for nefarious purposes. First time offense must be associated with jail time, proper dog ownership laws must be adopted. First time neglect, abuse….to be treated as a felony and so on.



Eradicating a breed of dog will serve no purpose. Would you kindly read the petition created, sign and please pass this on. This is a very wrong approach to attempt to correct a problem? I love all dogs and every breed if mistreated has the potential for causing harm. Gansters are now breeding Greyhounds with Pit Bulls to breed a more agile dog, are the Greyhounds next in line? Will they target every terrier, guardian, flock breed?





http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/867549600





Thank you for your time and consideration to this very important issue.








Virginia

[Danegirl2208]

i had no idea great danes were banned ANYWHERE :mad: ...its hard to imagine anyone hating such a gentle giant... That whole list really upsets me, its amazing to me how fast ignorence spreads

[simba77]

Wow. How could you ban a Newfie?? Or a St Bernard? Or a Great Dane??? Those are 3 of the sweetest dogs ever!! :mad:

I am not too familiar with great danes, but I have done much research on st bernards in the apst. And they are one of the kindest dogs Ive heard of. Along with golden retrievers and others. But anyways, though st bernards are heavy (150-210 lbs) and are extremely strong, so I KIND OF understand why they are band, though I dont think htey should be.

[simba77]

I have a boxer/pitbull named cinnamon eventhough she has only 15%pitbull in her you can really tell when you look at her jaw her jaw is about 8 inches wide and everyone is scared of her:confused: here is her picture people say I should put a muzzle on her when I walk I said no til I got stopped by a police officer now I can't walk her anymore until I get a muzzle any idea of where I can buy a muzzle??? well I heard boxers are on the bsl list that is just bull:mad:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m257/ashley_luvs_jamie/sillydogpictures029.jpg

You have to understand, that boxers and pitbulls are two very strong dogs. Though, I understand why you think its dumb that you cant walk her without a muzzle. But, she is capable of injuring a person severely which is probably why you can walk her. I myself have a fear of boxer ..Though I love them like cray I dont know why Im just scared of them. I think your dog is simply adorable though and I hope you find a muzzle soon.
~*LIA*~

[simba77]

I have a boxer/pitbull named cinnamon eventhough she has only 15%pitbull in her you can really tell when you look at her jaw her jaw is about 8 inches wide and everyone is scared of her:confused: here is her picture people say I should put a muzzle on her when I walk I said no til I got stopped by a police officer now I can't walk her anymore until I get a muzzle any idea of where I can buy a muzzle??? well I heard boxers are on the bsl list that is just bull:mad:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m257/ashley_luvs_jamie/sillydogpictures029.jpg

I looked for a decent priced muzzle for you and found this : http://www.morrco.com/latsafmuz.html I feel really bad for dogs that have to wear muzzles cus they cant yawn, cough, or sneeze properly, but here.. I hope it doesnt bother your dog too much.. Here are more if you dont liekt he one I picked out : http://www.morrco.com/dogmuzzles1.html

[simba77]

Im leaving for now, IM me yall, my aim is x0L1LCuTiE0x or waragnstteletbz

-LIA-

[ferJenna]

Hunter99... Does your dog have a history of fighting or aggression? I can't understand why they would MAKE you purchase a muzzle just because. That's ridiculous and I wouldn't do it. But that's just me :)

[Hunter99]

Well Cinnamon did bite somebody before when she was protecting her teritory she is EXTREMELLY TERRITORIAL!!!!! She fights with other dogs that get in her face she won't back down til the dog gets in a submissive mood she loves puppies but hates female dogs but she gets along with male and female boxers but not other breeds she was my first dog we never properly socialized her when she was a puppy we can never take her hiking, or to the bark park because she got into a fight with about 10 dogs already what do you suggest that I do?????:confused: :confused:

[Bri-Bri]

In most cases, large dogs are gentle giants. I have been attacked by a Pit Bull, but I still don't think that they should be banned. The owners of them carelessly tied him out on a chain, and I wanted to give it some attention.. and it jumped on me, and I flailed around, and it ended up biting me; a lot I have also never had a very good experience with Chows, but I do forgive them. I have been bitten by more smaller dogs, but I don't agree with the ban list. Super Insane!

[Bunnyone]

Wow. How could you ban a Newfie?? Or a St Bernard? Or a Great Dane??? Those are 3 of the sweetest dogs ever!! :mad:
I totally agree, Pit Bulls I just can't trust. My sister has one that she got as a pup, now that it's an adult. I find myself not being 100% comfortable around her.

[tiffers]

I totally agree, Pit Bulls I just can't trust. My sister has one that she got as a pup, now that it's an adult. I find myself not being 100% comfortable around her.

Is that from a personal experience, or only what you hear in the media?

[swing2ways]

...but it really seems ridiculous to me to ban any type of dog, purebred or not. Any dog can attack anyone at anytime--dogs are just unpredictable like that; it's their nature. Some may be more or less likely to attack than others, but it's still a possibility with any pooch. Should we ban all dogs, then? I haven't read the list, but it seems that people on here are mentioning a lot of large breeds. Does anyone who supports these idiotic ban lists even research the facts, such as the fact that more children are bitten by small breeds of dogs than by large-breed canines? Shall we muzzle little fluffy Fru-Fru next?

The level of ignorance and fear (as opposed to knowledge and logic) that goes into making laws and regulations these days is downright appalling. How about we go back to an old-school attitude, a really old-school mode of thought, where you would have the freedom to own any dog you like, but if that dog bit my kid's arm off, I would have the right to shoot the dog? That seems to me to make more sense than meaningless legislative drivel. No one who was truly interested in a dog as a companion or even in making any real long-term monetary profit from dogs would cut corners so drastically as to create an aggressive animal. Education, not legislation, is the key--letting people know how to get the most out of their dogs would do a lot more for responsible dog ownership than would attempts at restricting such ownership.

[ciws14]

Same old adage, "...it's not the gun that killed em', it was the idiot behind the trigger..."

They need to go after the people whom these dogs belong and hold them more responsible. It's all in how they are raised I say...

[m678o]

I really dont see why you could even ban a St. B. Great D. Pitt Bull Husky Boxer or an akita!:confused: :mad:

[Heidi1]

I wish there were better controls on breeders. Inspections, licenses awarded to breeders that passes strict testing. There are so many people out there that believe breeding their dog is a quick way to make money. They have no knowledge and therefore the puppies born are off to a terrible start. I believe the key is control on anyone breeding.

[Fluffy]

This kind of thing makes me sick. I have an English Mastiff, and she wouldn't ever intentionally hurt anyone. But when one of my friends, or one of my little brother's friends comes over, they immediately start screaming, "AHHH! Get that thing away from me!" They think that just because she is big, she is vicious. I love pit bulls, and I can't believe that because people misuse them, they have a bad rep. and people want the gone. :mad: We also have a Cavalier, and he gets along with Anastasia great, people just don't get that size doesn't matter.

[SweetQueenA]

I think it's stupidity. Ban the breeders and people who abuse animals... My brother has a 95 # pitbull and she is the sweetest dog I've ever been around. Meanwhile my neighbors purebreed poodle bites people on a regular basis (including me)

[tandy]

Oh, I see. German Shepards can do rescue work and help our soldiers in the field. But they can not be in TN?

[salukigirl]

does anyone not realize that PETA went to trial for animal cruelty and admitted to buying a 9,000 dollar freezer to store dead animals in? They are very extreme and the people who support them are people who don't realize what theyre all about. people support peta who are against having pets because it is confining an animal.....but they have pets of their own. banning is stupid. people don't realize that a dog is mean if you make it that way. yes they have animal instincts but that is towards rabbits....cats.....etc...not their owners. usually the dogs who are banned are the most loyal dogs ever. i have had 3 rotts and none of them even growled at anyone, ever.

[Ltlpistol]

I grew up with a Pit Bull/Dalmatian mix. He loved all children, and would protect women and children against any perceived threat. But any male, that had reached adulthood was not welcome in our home. He was never trained that way, he just was that way. We had him for 13 years, and were devastated when he got cancer and had to be put down.

The only dog I've ever been bitten by, and I don't like them to this day, was a Dachsund, and my sister was bitten, in the face, by a toy poodle!

I don't believe in bans, but I do believe in restraining an aggressive animal. My little Lhasa Tzu male that I have now, is extremely dog aggressive, and I keep him on a short leash when we go to Petsmart, especially when I see other dogs near.

People just need to be more aware that each dog is different, and big doesn't mean vicious.

Unfortunately, the people who get these ban lists going, don't care about individuals, they only care about generalities.

[Husky06]

How on earth can they ban Huskies and Malamutes. Thats just crazy, I mean they are known for their friendliness. I own both Huskies and German Shepherds, one of them is a trained Schutzhund dog, and the other for police work and they can be the most friendly dogs towards other people, but they're also on that list for a couple of places. That thing said in Fairfield for dogs over 100lbs? If you go by breed standards, huskies range 35 through 60 lbs, and the German shepherds, if you Have german bloodline shepherds they can be around 65-90 lbs. The American bloodline Shepherds can weigh well over 100 lbs though. Mine all weigh under 85.

[nanamouse]

I admit, that when I'm on foot it makes me a little nervous to see a large dog unattended, heading my way. But banning large dogs is ridiculous! The dogs are not at fault, it's owners who leave them out to wander. The reason I don't own a dog now, is that the house we rent does not have a fenced yard and I can't stand to see one chained up. I wish the owners of large dogs were all responsible enough and mature enough to train them properly, but once again, the dogs are not at fault, it's their human caretakers. And I agree with the post about small dogs being more prone to biting, I've been bitten a few times by small dogs, and never by a large one. Most dog attacks that I have read about are either the result of a dog that some idiot has trained to be mean, or someone who doesn't understand dogs approaching one in the wrong way.

[JMar0408]

i'm replying really late with this one...but i agree with all of you on this.
how can you ban this dog just because of a rep???:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n195/jmar0408/dog.jpg

*found this image online....isn't it the cutest thing ever???

[tiffers]

Wow. Look at all the scars that dog has!

[JMar0408]

sorry about the giant pic...just resized it....
yeah too bad about the scars (he probably got them from an un-leashed human or a chihuahua hehe)

[tiffers]

(he probably got them from an un-leashed human or a chihuahua hehe)

Hahahahaha! It was probably that vicious baby! I mean look at it! Geez!

[beasgal]

Love the picture! My Sadie is a pitbull mix and she is the most gentle dog with my stepson who has Cerebral Palsy (he has no control of his muscles). She will sleep with him, try to get him to throw her ball, etc. Even when he his arm or leg spasms and he accidentaly hits her, she just remains calm. She will even come get me if he has fallen off the couch, bed or in some way gets his legs or arms caught somewhere. I trust her with him completely.

Dog bans, of any breed, are by ignorant people who don't realize that dogs aren't "born to be bad", they are raised that way by more ignorant people!

[xpalaboyx]

i agree pet owners should be responsible with their pets.

[Zoomommy]

Whenever I see this list or something similar, I have to ask myself "when do we get to start banning people for being irresponsible and stupid?" :D

[ferJenna]

I love that picture! I'm pregnant, and I often get asked about what I'm going to do with Tino when the baby is born. I just want to slap them upside the head. Just because of his breed they automatically think he's going to eat it. Tino actually LOVES kids. That's why that picture is so great!

[Julia423]

Hahahahaha! It was probably that vicious baby! I mean look at it! Geez!

I laughed so hard I almost peed my pants...yup, that's one buffed baby.
Regarding banned breeds...I don't like banned anything. Generally our problems lie within ourselves, not the "things" we want to ban. Ho hum. Maybe we will all live long enough to really evolve. ;)

[Kayllisti]

A young child was recently killed in Minnesota from a dog attack from a pit bull. Now ppl are up in arms and think that we should have a breed ban (which has been proposed by Rep. John Lesch).
I would like to say that only 4 ppl have been killed in Minnesota from a dog attacks since 1960. Only one of the attacks was caused by a breed proposed to be banned (pit bull, rotts, chows, wolf-hybrid, akita).
I would also like to note that the dog in question was tied with a 3 foot leash to a pole in the basement. She had 5 puppies that were not properly being cared for and the child was alone. Now I have the deepest sympathy for the family as they are handling the death of their child, but how would any dog in this circumstance have reacted? These people had no right to own a dog or to treat her that way and they have nobody but themselves to blame.

They need to focus more on harsher punishment for animal cruelty and focus less on taking away beloved pets from their responsible owners...no matter what breed they choose.

[Finnycats]

Ooo


great danes and german sheperds


fairfield must be wierd :D

[muzz2001]

Just looked at 2 bumpers stickers, 1 says "Ban Stupid People, not Pit Bulls"
the other says " Ban Ignorance... Not Pit Bulls"
:)
That's funny :p

We used to have two great dane/bull mastif crosses when I was growing up - MASSIVE! They ate whole roast chickens in one gulp (when they stole them of the table one time :) but you couldn't have come across friendlier dogs. So much is to do with nature/nurture. So much is up to the owner and the training they've iplemented.

[JMar0408]

this pic was in my other thread but thought it pertained to this one as well. you all know the drill....Gorgeous pitbull who was mistreated as a puppy and was rescued at the tender age of 5weeks.

look how at-ease my baby Chania is with him.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n195/jmar0408/100_3639.jpg

[Husky06]

does anyone know if places would make exceptions on the "german bloodline" german shepherds. The females are suppose to range 60-75 lbs and I think the males around 70-90. I mean that isn't above 100 lbs. The american showline german shepherds weigh over 100 lbs, not the true germans.

[Megan07]

I cannot STAND people who ban breeds because they are "mean". They are NOT mean unless TRAINED. My Dad is one of those who believes Pits are mean and should be banned...Boy was I mad!

[salukigirl]

this guy was wlaking a pit bull outside and she was a puppy. he was trying to find a home for her and had already given her her first shots. i wanted her soooo bad! she just licked me all over. was the sweetest dog. and you can tell its because this guy treated her so well. he had a little bowl with food and water with him just in case lol. i know my friend j.r. loves pit bulls but his apt complex wont let him have terriers of any kind! theyre not just banning the one breed.....the whole terrier family! you got to kidding me! a little yorkshire terrier.....you cant have that?!

our old apt complex banned akitas, rottweilers, german shepherds, great danes, pit bulls, keshonds....all kinds of dogs. it was like if that dog had ever growled at a person, it was banned. the only way you could have one is if it was trained to help paralyzed people or to be a cop dog. and you had to go through this long process of verification for it.

our apt now has no restrictions on pets at all. no number, size, breed nothing. its nice. this is where all the people with huskies and rottweilers come bc they cant live anywhere else. there are huge dogs all over our complex and none of them have even ever growled at me. it really sucks that people dont realize its how you raise them, not their temperment.

[LadyLynn]

When I lived in Ontario Oregon, because someone got attacked by a pit bull, they and I think it was a nearby Idaho county, I think Fruitland was making a dangerous dog ordinance, and I think you might find it surprising, but Labradors and Labrador retrievers were being included on their, "Dangerous dog list.

Why? I haven't a clue. I'm just glad I don't live there.
I don't let my dogs run lose, and I don't let them have the run of the neighborhood, but my neighbor who owns a boat business sure does.

And whats worse is he lets his untrained dogs be under and around the legs of his customers. Is he stupid or what?

the minute his dog takes a chunk out of someone, we all know what might happen.

I don't feel sorry for him, but I do feel sorry for Maggie & Sam his two labs.

[PatchO'Pits]

Actually, I don't find it so surprising I've seen several reports showing high bite rates on labs. I feel it is mainly because of poor ownership and irresponsible breeding practices because labs are a very popular breed so are now quite over bred by BYBs looking for a quick buck who don't care about proper breeding practices and quality breed stock :(

BSL is never the answer!!! Now enforcing all breed dangerous dog laws and leash laws is the only way to truly help as well as eductaing owners and breeders, and not BSL which puts the focus on all dogs in a breed no matter what. The deed should be punished and not the breed and all breeds should be treated the same under the law IMO

[Chari15]

As with many of you I do not support everything that PETA stands for and advocates. Many of their stances are too extreme for me. However, I worked for a wildlife biologist back in my early college days that told me sometimes we need extremists on either side in order to create an acceptable median that we all can live with. I don't really know if I necessary believe this whole heartedly because it disturbs and angers me at times but it is a point I like to ponder.

I do not support banning any breeds. Just like a lot of you have stated I too believe that pet owners should be responsible for their animals. In the majority of cases it appears that a bad animal is bred and raised to be bad by uncaring, malicious people.

I, personally, have never been bitten by a dog. My grandfather was viciously attacked by 3 pit bulls owned by his sister who, along with her worthless excuses for kids (they were adults at the time), mistreated them and trained them to be vicious :mad: . Animal control finally took them away when they attacked a little boy walking home from school one day. Yep, you guessed it they were running free without any form of restraints be it fences or otherwise. On the other side of the coin I had a friend in college who had the sweetest pit bull I had ever met. He loved people and raised a baby kitten my friend had found along the highway that was half starved and injured.

Bad animals are for the most part a product of bad pet owners. Sometimes it is a result of negligence and ignorance while other times it is deliberate and sadistic. Banning breeds will not solve the problem of bad pet owners. I am a firm believer that in this case society is trying, again, to deal with the symptom and not the real problem. In this case we will just be running around in circles and opening up that door to more criminal behavior by deviants. Ignorance will still reign supreme as will the actions of those with less than noble and compassionate intent. Just my 2 cents ;) .

[LadyLynn]

you are right. There is always two sides to every story. When city ordinances get passed, like you can't own pit bulls, even though I would never have one, people dump these poor animals, refusing to surrender them to animal control, because in many cases those facilities are night mares. When people dump these animals its only the lucky ones who get picked up, adopted by someone decent.
Tri Cities Washington did this, and when one of my black labs was taking basic obedience three pits were in taking classes so they could pass the good citizenship test. People's home owner's insurances skyrocketted, and people were expected to pay $500 in addition to what they already paid, had to register their dog as potentianlly dangerous. At least this is what the instructor, and the pit bull owners were saying. I didn't live in Washington, but I did cross the Columbia for my dog to take classes because at the time that was the closest petsmart.

I remember one couple with 2 pitbulls that were small. The pitty's were so cute, and well cared fo, but one was old, her name was Ginger. Because of her age if anyone got near her, "She hung out at the feet of her owner, mostly laying down. She was not aggressive, but anyone, "Mainly the trainer, made any demands of her she'd snap.
At the end of the course the couple was told Ginger wouldn't pass the citizenship test right then. I wondered if her hips hurt and the like. I felt so bad.

I also remembered another gentleman's pitbull. The dog was well behaved and social. His name was Tank, and he obedyed every command his owner and trainer gave him.

Then the trainer told everyone at some point two things: When everyone registered their dogs for the class, petsmart had to purchase, and register for a special permit so that those who owned pit biulls wouldn't be arrested on the spot once they brought their dogs to class.

Then the trainer told everyone of an incident that happened in the store involving a pitbull. If I remember correctly she said a couple brought their dog in the store, I don't know if i was leashed or unleashed, but it was the people who were trash. The dog would lash out at everyone, and they would taunt everyone, harrass everyone in the store, and it took officers two hours to arrest the couple and seize the dog.

Pits are built with power, and the truth is most people don't know how to own and socialize them, but it can be done.

It's a few bad people that spoil the pleasure of being owned by any breed.


When we let fear control us, and how we govern people and pets we all lose something.

My own cousins have the sweetiest, dear pit bull. Daisy visits her brother's childrn all of the time and the kids range in ages from 5 to 13.

[salukigirl]

another thing that makes dogs crazy is when theyre owners give them NO discipline at all. they learn to walk all over everything and have no rules. So its like 2 extremes. the people that abuse their dogs for punishment and then the people who do absolutely nothing. i went to look at this rottweiler who was 3 years old. the woman was older and had some medical problems and had to get rid of her. well that dog was so mean, growled at me when i gave it a treat, never been on a leash before and i said NO THANKS!

seems like there should be a government ordinance for this: go to a person's house, if they cant handle training a dog to make it both sociable and friendly, they shouldnt have kids lol. because if you cant handle a dog.....how are you ever going to raise a human being? and it is the people with hellions for children who have the dogs that bite people. i just dont get how politicians cant get it into their thick skulls that its not the dog's fault. however, they are only doing what the public wants. so there needs to be better education throughout the community so that they dont push laws like that.

[LadyLynn]

One thing I learned early on from a dog training video before I moved here is that when you are training your dog don't allow children to touch your dog.
this is so you can get the dog to obey, and keep kids from getting bit.

I have found since living ere for 1 1/2 years now that the children in this town are undiciplined and have no idea that they should not go up to a strange dog.
As for my dogs, I've got one I don't trust at all around kids cuz I think, and I only suspect it when I was hospitalized a few years back that my son beat the snid out of her, "Hubby was working, and she tends to snap when she's afraid. I love my dog, and depend on her to help me, but I keep her away from the general public most of the time, but I still have to take her for walks.
The other, she wouldn't hurt a fly, but if you have a treat it can seem like she's biting, but all she's doing is taking a treat

but I have found children I encounter on the road without their parents when I'm walking my dogs make a bee line to pet my pretty doggies, so I've just gotten bold enough to tell the children, "please stay away from my dogs, I'm training them. I'm sorry.

So far so good, but you just never know.

it's not wise to let children pet your dog without their parents' permission or their supervision, and if you don't want people petting your dog say so.

[Chari15]

All of my life my parents and I have adopted shelter dogs that were actually mutts. We had very few purebreds. The few that were originally mean were easily turned with proper training and love. One dog named Cuddles was a pit bull, black lab mix and she was mean only because she had been beaten and starved. Within a few months or proper care and attention she became one of the most loveable pets we had.

In my experience it seems to hold true that mean dogs are raised to be mean. I haven't met one yet that was just plain born mean. It seems like that has been the general concensus from what I've read so far.

[LadyLynn]

The point is nothing to do with a dog being mean meant here. It's people that can be jerks.
The point is even if your dog so much as nips a child you can be sued, and it can cost you dearly.
Often times smaller children, quite by accident can take a slight nip and tell their mom and dad, 'that dog bit me, and the misunderstanding can cost you, so to keep the Animal control officers from visiting you, and the parents taking you to court it is always wise to make sure the parents are present if you are going to let children pet your dog. Otherwise, even though you know for a fact your dog isn't going to do anything whasoever to someone they encounter just don't let people pet your dog.

The only exception I could see to some degree, but parents still have to be present is if your dog is a hospital therapy dog and is doing service to people at the hospital.

[Chari15]

The thing is even if the parents are present there is no guaranteeing that a child won't get rough with a pet or in some way annoy the pet so that they snap or whatnot. The child does not necessarily do it to harm or scare the pet but none the same a misunderstanding can still occur if the dog nips or otherwise frightens the child.

Personally, I avoid allowing strangers to play with my pets. I do not do it out of spite or to be rude and disrespectful but because there is just too much of a propensity for a misunderstanding to occur and, like you said LadyLynn, it costing me dearly. The desire to go sue happy (especially here in the U.S. though I'm not sure how it is with other nations) causes me to be very cautious when any of my pets are interacting with the public. It is not the animal or pet I do not trust...unfortunately, it is the people.

Perhaps in the case of hospitals and places of service there could be some sort of liability form to protect the institution and people as much as possible if that is not already in effect. Whatever the point may be I have found it necessary to react much more cautiously with my pet in public avenues.

[ServiceDobie]

This is OUTRAGIOUS, we're loosing the battle with the BSL. Soon Service Dogs will be effected by the BSL,:mad: As sooon as I am able to get back to VA to live I will be getting a female Doberman to train as my Service Dog. Because of the BSL I may not be able keep her long, that makes me both Angry:mad: and VERY sad too.:( I'll have to post again and include a link to my myspace page so everyone can see how I truely feel about the BS BSL

Becky and soon to be Service Dog in Training Takkera

[LadyLynn]

If your dog is indeed a service dog, and it is licensed and or is undergoing training you and your dog are legally protected from being seized and or banned, it is an "exception to the rule, however if your dog is proven to be absolutely vicious and for no apperent reason and compalints are continued and you don't just basically stay away without your beware of dog sign then you are at risk for loosing your doberman.

So honestly I wouldn't be too concerned about your banned breed doberman losing his home if he is indeed your service dog.

he has some legal rights and I suggest you hunt down the websites that specify these laws and what your dogs rights are. I have once upon a time found them but it's been about five six years so you'll have to search them on your own.

so don't worry about your service animal as far as your state and city are concerned.

[LadyLynn]

ServiceDobie: my spuse and I talked about this thread, and your post and worry about keeping your dobie that you will be training to be a service animal.

Don't worry or let the group you mentioned thiking they can force you to give that dog up before it is ready to move into the program or if it is your personal group, should they do so present the case to the ada group of America.

I doubt they'll get far without some real legal problems.
you keep that dobie as long as you need.

Let us know how it goes.

Civil liberties union may also be one that backs up the ada group as well.

[Catslave]

My stepson had a bull terrier and til the day she died was one of the best behaved dogs I've ever seen, all due to him perservering with her training and love and attention.
I have a friend with an English mastiff the size of a small pony it's the gentlest dog I've ever met..she can't take him for a walk up the street any more as when she did and left him outside the shops while she went in somebody deliberately ran in to him with a supermarket trolley as he was so big and scary..cost her over $1000.00 to get him fixed at the vets and now he's scared of anything with wheels and jumps out of his skin if even a baby stroller goes near him..so tell me who the savage animals are..not the dogs. She's elderly and not well and she doesn't have any trouble handling him.

[LocalInUK]

I feel like a lot of the stuff on the list is born of ignorance and stereotypes. Really unjust to some of these beautiful breeds of dog.

[amorton1437]

What happened in Iowa? Seriously, what went on that all these great breeds are banned.

[CKelly976]

Banning big dogs in cities makes sense to me just because of space, I'd rather have a big dog on a nice big farm in the country than inside an apartment on main st. in syracuse or rochester.

I don't think that we need to ban breeds of dogs, the only dogs I'm uncomfortable around are ones that give me a reason to be. I think perhaps instead especially with "pit bulls" and other so called "agressive" breeds is to require a license for ownership and follow with stipulations on housing etc. I don't agree with having small children and pit bulls regardless of how loving they can be they are still a strong animal with animal instinct and too many stupid people let bad things happen and then wonder why.

Last year a 6yr old boy was killed in syracuse by the family pit bull because mommy sent him outside to feed the dog. !!!!! does anyone else see something wrong with this? I wouldn't send a small child to feed any dog larger than mine, dogs get excited and jump the kid could easily be accidentally hurt because he's got food in his hands.

since we haven't limited licensing to have children, I think the least that could be done is to limit who can and cannot own said dangerous breeds. that way if we can't eliminate stupid people, we can at least limit what kind of pets they can have.

[shae marks]

No breed is banned in the entire United States. There are several breeds banned in specific areas, including the Dogo Argentino, which might be the dog you're thinking of.
Source(s):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_D..

[katiem]

No breed is banned in the entire United States. There are several breeds banned in specific areas, including the Dogo Argentino, which might be the dog you're thinking of.
Source(s):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_D..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_Dogo

[FredsMom]

Banning big dogs in cities makes sense to me just because of space, I'd rather have a big dog on a nice big farm in the country than inside an apartment on main st. in syracuse or rochester.

While I completely 100% agree the big out and open is the best place for big dogs, I think it may be a bit unfair to genrealize and say it would make sense to ban large dogs in big cities.

I have three large dogs. Are we in an ideal living situation? No. We ARE trying to remedy our living situation as soon as we can find a place and get finances in order. However, I have to say, I have three large dogs (well soon to be three... ones still very small!) in an apartment in Los Angeles and they get more exercise than a lot of dogs I knew when I was in a small town. I don't think it is WHERE a person lives, but more so what a pet owner is willing to do to keep their lot happy and healthy. We understand that where we live isn't ideal for our dogs so we giev up a bit of our own social lives to ensure that we bring the dogs out to open spaces as often as possible to run around (on weekends this includes disc competition, trips to off leash parks, hiking, camping, etc, and on weekdays it means hours at the dog park after work, even if that measn we'll be up till god knows when taking care of dinner and chores).

My parents also live in a metropolis and have two large dogs. I will give you they live in a large house with a decent sized yard, but again, I know they take better care of their dogs and give them the proper exercise and lives compared to many people I know who live in the country. And I've seen small dogs couped up in city homes that are never given the opporunity to be a dog and are sentenced to life as an accessory. And because of this are snippy and untrained.

Sorry, I guess I took the comment a bit personally. I guess all I am saying is, its the owner, not the dog. Im a firm believer in that. Doesn't matter the living situation, the breed, the size, big city or small town. If the pet owner isn't willing to put in the work, the training, and all that comes with owning a dog, then that is where you run into problems.


I do agree though, small children shouldn't be made to care for Large dogs that can be hyper or harm the child. And I do agree with lisencing, but not for just specific breeds. I think all dog owners should be lisenced. I've been bitten by dogs before. 3 Total. out of those three? And the ones that injured me the worst? A chihuahua and a small terrior mix. And the one time I was bit by a large dog, it was my fault.