Korea dog and cat consumption:

[John Olexa]

Message: Petition against dog and cat slaughter and consumption in South Korea






http://www.petitionthem.com/default.asp?sect=sign&pet=2199
THE PETITION

There will be so many positive changes when Korea expels dog and cat consumption:

1. No more unhygienic and disgusting food.

2. No more cruel slaughter of dogs and cats.

3. No more pollution of the environment from dog meat trade.

4. Korean children will learn the value of loving animals.

5. Korea will become a more peaceful society.

6. Korea will no longer be viewed as a country of animal abusers.

7. Koreans and the international community will welcome Korea as a country that protects and loves animals.

8. Less geriatric disease. Good news for public health.

9. Progressive young Koreans will support the government.

10. Korea's image will improve and Korea's future generation will benefit from the change.

DESIRED OUTCOME

We request that the Korean President should end the policy to legalize dog meat (hygienic control of dog meat). Instead we ask that the President should promote the legislation that bans the slaughter of dogs and cats for food/medicine and prohibits the consumption of dog/cat meat.

WHO WE NEED TO INFLUENCE

We need to influence Korean Government to take appropriate action to end the terrible cruelty and consumption of these inocent animals.

HOW LONG WILL WE CAMPAIGN

Indefinite till the cruelty and consumption dogs and cats South Korea is over or the end of 2007

WHO TO CONTACT

Dogaid Australia
www.dogaid.freeservers.com
P.O Box 6050 Karingal
Victoria 3199

[blueberrybun]

I'm sorry John. As much as I love cats and dogs I cannot sign a petition asking Korea to make it illegal to eat them. I know it seems sad and cruel to us but they see dogs and cats like we (the average American) see cows, pigs, etc. It would be like Hindus asking us to sign a petition making it illegal to eat cows. Now if this were just a petition to make the living conditions for the animals better then I would sign it in a hearbeat but I cannot take away a food that is part of Korean tradition. Sorry.

[John Olexa]

This is not my petition i just posted it here for people to decide. The sad part is a lot of dogs & cats who were someone's pets are stolen here in the states & sold on the black market to Korea. ( Theres a name for it but can't think of it right now) But thats why I signed it.

[blueberrybun]

Yea, I agree with signing something about that but i dont know. I just have to sit and think on this one. Because this would rule out all dog and cat meat, even the kind that could be raised in good conditions, etc etc,

[John Olexa]

l dog and cat meat, even the kind that could be raised in good conditions, etc etc,

No problem, I understand. I sure don't want you to do something your not 100% behind. I doubt it's going to do any good anyway.

But on the above quote,
I can't prove this but somehow I just can't see them being raised in good conditions...... in South Korea. They could care less

[rileystar04]

I'm going to sign, although I don't think it would do any good.

I buy my cow/pig/chicken meat from local farmers and I see how the cows graze on the fields and chickens run free and they all eat vegetables and are not injected with steroids, are not separated from their babies, etc. If Korea could do the same for dogs and cats, I wouldn't be against them eating them. But the truth is, they drive these cats and dogs insane by depriving them of the human contact they need so much. It's sickening. I know that won't change so if it means banning that meat from their culture, so be it.

[Riosmommy]

I signed it. Maybe it wont do anything but I think its worth a try. I was at my parents this weekend who are big animal people and when I told them of that one video the way the animals were thrown. They were as outraged as I was. I condemn suffering in anything human or animal. I do not believe in torture or suffering. Meat consumtion is peoples choices- I can deal with that, not happily but I can. I can't judge someone for it. But to cause suffering like they do its an outrage. These are just my opions. I respect everyones thoughts on it and do not mean to offend anyone. My prayers for these little guys.
Rio&Nickysmommy

[Gail45ca]

I signed it also. I'm against any cruelty to animals. I imagine these poor animals lead a life of suffering up until the time their killed. I don't approve of that here in the USA either. I also feel that to eat cats and dogs is barbaric. These are animals with higher thought processes and their are capable of being loving, protective companions. Many dogs and cats have saved their owner's lives. Can a fish do that? I'd eat a fish, but not a dog or cat! I think certain animals are meant for food and certain ones are meant as companions to enrich our lives. Would you eat your best friend? This is just my opinion.

[SweetPea]

Actually, why should we be against this?

I'm not trying to start an argument here; only friendly disagreement.

I think sometimes, Americans forget how lucky they are; eating cows? i mean...come on; that's sacred to other country...am i right?

when youre hungry, you will eat anything.

and it's not as though they're killing these animals to make a jacket out of, or a nice pair of shoes, or purse out of... they're EaTING them... as a source of food, as a source of nutrient, to get them through the day. so why is that animal cruelty? they're makinig use out of the animal they kill.. they have to do what they have to do.. it's not as though they have the luxury to go to the grocery store, and pick up a nice pack of veal...you know..baby cows that is tied up, and doesnt even get to see the sunlight?

They also dont have the luxury of making a companion out of animals.. you know.. yes.. i love dogs, i think theyre a great companion...but if i was hungry., and starving? that dog is dinner... i'm not in america...i'm in a poor third world country.

you dont know how desperate you are, when you see your children, weak and lying there out of hunger, that empty feeling in your stomach, the pain gnawing at your innards,,,

oh yeah.. isnt when you support this petition, your kind of chosing an animalk over a human being? i'm sorry, any human being is worht more htan an animal's life... and if you know me, and know how much i love my own pets, this is saying a lot.

[John Olexa]

If it came down to it Would you give them your pet to eat??

[SweetPea]

To save a HUMAN life? Definitely, I believe strongly in God. And not just my pets' life, but my own life too..

[John Olexa]

Holy crap! you would let them kill & eat your pet!!. (Never mind I better not)
But I cannot believe what I just read.

No way. I would give my last peice of bread to any animal before I would give it to a adult.

[BirdLuver288]

i think alot of humans have other choices for food, but some dont, but, i dont think i could ever fully respect anyone who tells me they just had spike for dinner "and boy was he good" like china for instance, i would never go there, becasue if i did, i would end up taking millions of those poor victoms home with me, im not sure about how they kill animals in korea, but if it involvs a slow bleeding out then, that is imo animal cruelty, animals wernt put here to be mass produced in cramped conditions, then shipped out half dead just to be beat, froze, burned, bled, skinned, or eaten alive.

i dont have as big a problem with a quick death, as long as everyhting is used, sadly barlely any of that happens, only parts on animals is used, some times just the skin, some times just the meat, i think all of it should be used, the skin, meat, organs, everything that can be used should be, anyhting that we cant use, and the stuff that is actualy useful towards other animals, well, i htink the rest should go to zoos, or somthing, so they can eat the bones, and other things, alot of zoo animals would probly appreaciate it anyway.

but i guess thats jmo

[Gail45ca]

I totally agree that any animal consumption should make use of all the animal. And I am totally against cruelty up until the time of death. But, I will never believe it is o.k. to eat cats and dogs. They are highly thinking, intelligent creatures and have served humans in many ways. Can a cow work with the police department to capture a rapist? Can a fish sniff out cancer in a human being to save its life? Now I realize that Asia takes a different view of cats and dogs, some posting here have said that they look upon them as a food source like we look upon cows. But, is not Asia surrounded by an ocean?
I'm sure they can find plenty of fish to eat, not to mention rice and veggies.
I doubt dog and cat meat would even be nutritious enough to provide much needed vitamins! Because God didn't put them here to be used as a food source. I know I'll be opening a can of worms by saying this but here goes anyway. If you look in the Old Testement, God lists the foods approved for human consumption. There's not a dog or a cat listed in the group! It's not mentioned in the New Testement either. Some will say, of course, that the orient has a different religious system. Yes, I know. So do satanists, but that doesn't make it right. But aside from religion, again, with all the fish supply available to them, why is it necessary to eat animals that are supposed to be our pets? Just my opinion. :)

[minaraiko]

Although, I love animals with all my heart as well, I must also agree that for another country, cats and dogs may be their food source. On the line about the ocean surrounding Asia. True that there is one, but in order to catch fish, you need to be right there by the water. This is a third world country you're talking about here. Not everyone has the luxury of driving out there or owning a horse to take them out to the ocean. Then you have to go out into the water to catch these fish. Remember this is not a lake where they swim in a small area. This is the ocean and fish can swim anywhere. So there is a possiblity that is a person did not have a boat, then they would not be able to fish.

I mean, if you think about it, the US is close to China in size (China is still bigger), but if you are say, in Nevada, and the US was a third world country, so no cars unless you were "rich." Where then would you find fish? You would most likely end up eating such things as snakes, birds, and coyotes. I do not agree with the idea of the Koreans buying stolen pets and using them though. I also would not agree on eating or feeding the family pet to people just because they are starving. How could you eat something that you have made a connection with? That may be part of the reason why they don't give the dogs the same love and attention that we give our pets here. I do agree that these animals should be cared for properly and not live in horrid conditions until they die. I think it depends on the situation.

Now as for religion.. well, honestly, I would say that religion should be left out of this. Everyone and every country has their own set of "beliefs." Therefore to compare the rules of (insert religion here) to another is wrong. On top of that, comparing Satanists to Asian beliefs is rather offending. I do not believe in God, nor do I completely believe in any complete set of beliefs or religion from one country to another. I have my own personal set of beliefs from different places. Calling one or another barbaric is barbaric in itself as it was when early settlers invaded what is now the US and then forced a religion upon the Native Americans who were firm believers of Shamanism. I hope this does not sound like an attack as it is not. It is merely me stating what facts I know as well as my own opinion on the matter.

[SweetPea]

well said minaraiko!

i didnt mean to say that i would give away my pets just to feed them...but.. say i have kids, and lived in a thrid world county...if i had no food to feed my own kids, then i wouldnt be able to feed my pets either, so therefore, i would feed my kids ANYTHING that would be able to keep them alive

[John Olexa]

"In Defense of Animals (IDA) has learned that two million South Korean dogs are electrocuted, strangled, or bludgeoned to death each year. Then they're boiled, skinned, browned by a torch, chopped up and eaten.
All of this cruelty and suffering is enough to make you sick".

Ain't that the truth!!!!

The tragic reality is that authorities are giving the dog meat trade their silent blessing by turning a blind eye to this outrageous bloodbath even though Korean law forbids the sale and consumption of dog meat. The country's Animal Protection Law, which was passed in 1991 considers dogs to be "domestic pets."

Where do the dogs come from?

Thirty percent are stolen from families that love them. Most are homeless dogs, captured by butchers and sold in open markets.


http://www.idausa.org/campaigns/korea/korean.html

[rileystar04]

To save a HUMAN life? Definitely, I believe strongly in God. And not just my pets' life, but my own life too..

Umm... God treasures animals lives just as much as human life. I'm sure He wouldn't be too happy with you sacrificing a pet you took responsiblity for to save a human. God wants us to respect animals and love them. Not abuse them. I've come to realize animals are not here for our use. Yes the Bible says we have "dominian" over them, but I believe it means we are to take care of them. They should not be caged their entire lives just to be eaten later on. If you want to eat them, fine, but give them a GOOD life before you do.

God created the animals and said they were good (Genesis 2:25)

God created man and animals to live together in harmony and to enjoy companionship. (Genesis 1:21-26 & 2:19-20)

The harmonious relationship between man and animals will be restored in the millennial kingdom. (Isaiah 11:6-9)

God keeps record of every animal that has ever lived.
(Luke 12:6)

It is reasonable to expect that when God re-creates a new heaven and earth, that the harmonious relationship between man and animals will be no less than in the original creation or the millennial kingdom.
(Revelations 21:1, 5)

Animals came under the curse when man sinned, but will be freed from the curse through Christ.
(Romans 8:20-22; Colossians 1:20 and Acts 3:20)

[Riosmommy]

I just got done watching part of Larry King last night and was happy to see they are finally making public some of the cruelty man is afflicting on animals. When you see the faces of animals that these people catch.. they cant even treat them humanly before they do their nasty deeds. Sickened by the whole situation is not even the words that can express how I feel. Man uses animals as he uses everything else in life. Dogs and animals can save people and rescue them in our worlds biggest disasters. They go in bravely to sniff out people and explosives. Pets help people live longer lowering blood pressure and also improving their lives. Many of these third world countries we are talking about are! using these animals for fur trading. I live in the United States and we give and get so many prodcuts from these countries, so money is going their way. Their governments need to take action on these situations. Teach their people how to eat, help them build a healther diet for them. As time goes by Cultures develope and things improve. As humans we no longer live in caves. We have become more educated. The responsibility of the entire world right now is to educate these people and forget the religous aspect thats another can of worms. The fact of the matter is everyone eating these animals are not starving. I watch discovery channel you see tribes that never have lived near civivlization and they dont eat their dogs. In most situations I believe its a choice for many of them just as you can chose salad or a Hamburger. Animals have souls and to see these faces breaks a person heart and truly these crimes are the worst of mankind in my book. These are my opionions.
Rio&Nickysmommy

[SweetPea]

lol.. i guess i'mgoing to hell.. i have, and rescue parrots, and they are in cages... for their safety.. i would love to have them to go where, and whenever they want.. but too many risk involved..

[minaraiko]

Since I am Asian, I have heard stories from my family, as they used to live in Vietnam, about people who ate dogs. My family would never knowingly eat a cat or dog because they used to have a few themselves. I believe that it was once part of their culture. (Gruesome bit of information) I had heard from someone once that newborn puppies when made into a medicinal soup was supposed to be good for you. I looked at her like she was crazy, but knew that it was something that people did a long time ago. Pertaining to the electrocution, dognapping, and cruel treatment of dogs and cats in Korea, I do not agree on this. I was actually not aware that they had mad laws to keep people from eating dogs. They have done something similar in Vietnam I believe. I'm sure they have outlawed the consumption of snakes. I cannot blame a person for eating what they can catch (under certain circumstances as in they had no other choice.), but I also cannot agree upon the consumption of a pet if there is other food readily available. It's just wrong.

[John Olexa]

The Ministry of Agriculture defines dogs and cats as pets and not livestock. Many Koreans claim that the right to eat dog is a matter of cultural pride stemming from a century's old tradition. At one time the habit of eating dogs gained prevalence after the Korean war due to widespread starvation. BUT, It grew in popularity after reconstruction because dog dealers and restaurants began to fabricate health benefits derived from eating dog meat. In reality, the trade in dog meat has more to do with greed and profits rather than any sort of tradition. Sadly, the practice has spread to younger Koreans who did not live through the war and believe without question the myths passed down by some elders. Young people have been known to eat dog meat in defiance of what they view as western imperialism. To send a message to the West, dog is sometimes eaten in groups as a display of solidarity and national pride. . Koreans will fault America as being an inherently violent society, but they can not see that hanging and beating a dog to death does not exactly set a good example for their children

[Gail45ca]

Well said, John! TELL IT LIKE IT IS, MY FRIEND!

[jdegriz]

Well, some studies say that pigs are highly intelligent, to a much higher degree than dogs or cats. Anyone here have an issue with hot dogs, ham, bacon, etc?

John- wasn't there a special some years ago on 60 minutes or 20/20 about this? I could swear I saw pictures of dogs being kept in small cages until ready for consumption, then killed in the most brutal way imaginable. In fact I think it was pictures or video of someone hanging a dog up and beating it to death with a blunt instrument.

I don't often agreee with John you but I'll sign the petition and post it on my local boards. Maybe we should write to the State Department too.

[John Olexa]

Well, some studies say that pigs are highly intelligent, to a much higher degree than dogs or cats. Anyone here have an issue with hot dogs, ham, bacon, etc?

John- wasn't there a special some years ago on 60 minutes or 20/20 about this? I could swear I saw pictures of dogs being kept in small cages until ready for consumption, then killed in the most brutal way imaginable. In fact I think it was pictures or video of someone hanging a dog up and beating it to death with a blunt instrument.

I don't often agreee with John you but I'll sign the petition and post it on my local boards. Maybe we should write to the State Department too.


I don't eat hotdogs, ham bacon ect or any meat.. or dairy for that matter
Not sure about the special, didn't see it, but I'm sure they did something on it


Ah man! you want and broke your record!! I don't think you have every agreed with me LOL

[jdegriz]

I don't eat hotdogs, ham bacon ect or any meat.. or dairy for that matter
Not sure about the special, didn't see it, but I'm sure they did something on it


Ah man! you want and broke your record!! I don't think you have every agreed with me LOL

;) must be a momentary lapse...

I really wish I could remember that special! A&E maybe? Discovery? I just remember turning it off for a while because it was just so brutal. There is no excuse, tradition or otherwise for this barbaric behavior. Thanks for bringing this up. You should do it on a regular basis for the newbies to find.

[John Olexa]

LOL I'm sure it was :D

[califcarolyn]

Thank you John for this petition. This is so very important. I can't believe
the sites that I have seen on the Internet promoting this garbage.

[violet13]

Of course I signed without any hesitation.
Knowing faithfullness and strong emotional attachment of dogs to guardians, there is no way for me to ignore shocking brutality and cold blooded killing of our best friends!
I just cannot understand some people who can ignore sickening barbarity in Korea.