Jenday Conure

[Northstar106]

I have a 4 month old Jenday Conure that I need to find a home for. It is believed to be a male. I am asking 450.00. This price includes the bird, cage, toys, food & several care books on Conures. The only reason I am selling him is because I am getting a blue & gold McCaw & dont have the room for both.

I am located in Atlanta, GA.

[Redstorm1721]

You are just getting rid of him for another? I feel sad!

[Jenny]

Ditto! If you just didn't get the blue and gold macaw, you'd have PLENTY of room for your poor Jenday! :(

[Mrs.Birdy]

There's always room for one more.....think about it and you'll see.

[birdygirl]

If you are having problems with the Jenday you have to work them out. He is only 4 months old. A new home will scar him for life. What's going to happen when you want a bird that isn't a macaw? Is he going to be kicked out like the conure? Please think about your conure before you think about what you want. A bird is not a posession. They choose to like or dislike someone. They have feelings.

Please don't be selfish in thinking about what you want instead of what the Jenday needs.

[wtbone3]

Although I respect all of your opinions, I think the final moral decision should be left to the owner. If he/she feels that they cannot properly care for the bird, then maybe it is best that it goes to a new home where it can get the attention and care that it so desperately needs as most of you have pointed out. Would this not be the best resolution to this problem? This is just my two cents.

~Walt~

[birdygirl]

Wetbone if that bird can't be cared for how is the owner going to care for the new macaw?

[Redstorm1721]

I have a couple of cents to add! Just don't have any birds. Birds are our children. If your child acted up, would you give them up? I feel you should not own a bird!That is my 2 cents!

[JSimko]

If you are getting rid of your bird because it won't talk, then you are going to have the same problem with a maccaw. You probably did not give the conure a reason to say anything. I am using not talking as a possible reason, because that is most often the case. Birds are not a novelty item, they are way to smart to be treated that way. None of my birds repeat anything until they have a pretty good understanding of what it means. For example, my conure says "let me out". We taught him this by telling him to say it and when he did, we did just that we let him out of his cage. I have a feeling that the reason our birds like us so much and and talk so well is, because we treat them as equals and not pets. If treated properly any parrot (not just the large ones) will want to talk. Also my parakeet speeks very clearly.

[Redstorm1721]

I agree with Diane. My keet talks all the time. Her favorit word is Pretty Girl. This is what I hear all the time LOL. She looks at herself in the mirror and says this all day. Its so cute. We should all think this way.My Senegal, is just starting to say some words. Not that we understand her,but its so cute. She is only 5 months old. My Pearl sounds like she says hi all day. But she is also young and she can't talk yet. I could careless if they ever talk, I just love them so much. I couldn't imagine life without them!

[birdygirl]

My Sophie talks but that is an added bonus as pionus learn a few words but don't talk well. If a bird is not expected to talk it probably will because they know it isn't important. My keet is just learning to talk and she is two. You have to give your bird time. They talk when theyare comfortable. And some never talk. And that is fine.

[Mrs.Birdy]

My tiel and budgies don't utter one word, but their whistles, squeals and squawks speak volumes. Believe me, they know how to communicate their needs and wants. Sooooo cute.:)

[Jenny]

Referring back to what Walt said, of course the final decision is left to the owner. All of us are just trying to keep one more bird from needing a new home. I don't see how anyone thinks they can handle a macaw, when they can't handle a conure. Macaws go through biting stages and aggressive stages, and if the owner doesn't know how to train him and work with him to prevent this, then the poor macaw will be out of a home too in a few years, I'm sure. :( I think Northstar said in another post that his Jenday wasn't trusting or something like that, and that's why he's decided to give up on the poor bird.

[birdygirl]

Iagree it is the owners choice. I think we are just trying to helo the owner make a better descision with the bird in mind. Not what the owner wants. However Northstar has the final say not us. All I can say is make a good descision Northstar.

[wtbone3]

Originally posted by Redstorm1721
I have a couple of cents to add! Just don't have any birds. Birds are our children. If your child acted up, would you give them up? I feel you should not own a bird!That is my 2 cents!

To answer redstorm, are you saying i should not own a parrot? Because if you are that would be a gross measure of negligence on your part. I have had experience with many birds (if you would have looked at my signature), no parrots yet, but I am looking to maybe get one. I have done my research, and I am still debating weather I will be able to commit to one, as I know it is a big commitment. Now, as far as mocking me "I have a couple of cents" I do not appreciate that, I was trying to help a person, and fellow pet owner in need of advice on a moral decision. I am sure the owner of this bird did not intend to be ridiculed when placing this add on this forum. Now, just some future advice, I am also a member of a classifieds forum similar to this (www.faunaclassifieds.com) and there is one thing that you all should remember, not saying that all of you need to, but some people in particular. Everything you write here stays here, and can be looked back upon at any time. So be carefully what you say, and who you mock, because it may come back to haunt you. Just some friendly advice not meant to offend anyone.

~Walt~

[birdygirl]

Walt.

Some of us just birdpeople just go crazy when we see something that isn't fair to a bird. I guess some of us have a way of putting the bird first. I'm sorry if I offended you or Northstar in anyway. It is important to respect people. I however do feel that it is up to us humans to speak up for the birds.
Allison

My Parrot has two hearts one is mine.

[wtbone3]

I couldnt agree with you more Allison, and you have offended me in no way, it just drives a person over the edge when they are trying to help and are just mocked and told they shouldn't own birds, as redstorm said.

~Walt~

[Jenny]

Walt- this is totally off the subject of birds (I hope none of you mind!) but I noticed that you breed albino geckos. I've recently been researching albinism and its affects on humans, and was wondering how it affects your geckos. Hope you don't mind me asking- I'm just very curious! :)

[Redstorm1721]

Walt, you could of saved yourself a huge message,I was refering to Northstar! Why he wants to rid of one bird and get another!

[Redstorm1721]

Thanks Jenny!

[wtbone3]

Maybe you should be more specific. Now seeing as this was just a misunderstanding I hold no grudge to you, except I ask that you be more specific so that you do not offend people, even though you may have not meant it. Thanks all for your comments on this issue.

~Walt~

[Redstorm1721]

Well Walt, welcome to the site. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I would never want to offend anyone. That is not me. I was just so upset that someone would want to get rid of one bird for another. But really its none of my business. I am sorry to Northstar,if I offended you too. Thanks for the comment. Gail

[birdgirl]

I hope there are no hard feelings here at parrot.com we should all be friends. there is so much hate on other parrot boards (such as birdmart.com) that many people only post once and and never come back.

[wtbone3]

I am glad we worked this out, and I agree with birdgirl. Perhaps I was a little rash defending myself, but I can see your devotion to birds Gail, and I must applaud you.


~Walt~

P.S. Dose anybody know who the Webmaster is?

[Jenny]

Mr.Parrot is the webmaster, on the second page of the "members" section

[birdygirl]

i understad that these things happen. I want to say the big controversy was a large misunderstanding. Which it was. So all is well and there is no hate.

I only post at two message boards.
This one and another one. They have sucha family feel to them. I can go and get good advice whenever I need it.

[Redstorm1721]

Oh ,how I love this site. I love everyone here. I never want to hurt anyones feelings. So I am so very happy that I have meet alot of new friends here. Thanks everyone for being my friend. And thank you so very much, for all the great advice all has giving me. I have learned so much from just being here. I don't go to any other post. This is the only one I want to come to. I look forward to every day to come here.Back when it was the old post,Jenny and I were the only ones there. I learned alot from Jenny. I am so glad we have this! Thanks Walt. I am so glad you understand that I would not intentionally try to hurt, or mock, or be mean, to anyone. Thanks for the nice things said! Gail

[ToxicTom77]

I usually try to stay in the middle of the road, but i think that some people are getting bent out of shape over something... that is none of thier business anyway. If someone wants to get another bird, and sell the first one, then so be it. If you aren't in his/her shoes, then you may not understand the whole situation. This person was merely offering up a bird for a resonable price to anyone interested. He/she wasn't talking about drowning the bord to make room for his next victim, yet I noticed that there are a lot of people up in arms about the sale. If you are so concerned about it's welfare, then maybe you should purchase the jenday from him. My feelings are this: Good luck with the new bird, and I hope the new owner of the jenday enjoys their new purchase.


ToxicTom77@parrot.com

[birdygirl]

I agree.

[birdgirl]

I wish I could buy it oh well.